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  1. Jab_hard

    Jab_hard Active Member Full Member

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    Pretty Boy Floyd Mainstream Money Mayweather on HBO PPV. First weekend of may 2010.
     
  2. DON1

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    I really like Collazo, top man, top fighter, really underrated. Unfortunately he seems to be a **** buddy for this crocked boxing bigwigs. There is no way Berto won ther first fight and there is no way Hatton beat him. ****ing robbery.

    Problem is he has no KO power so he cant end a fight, which is a shame otherwise they couldnt deny the man the staps he deserves.

    Berto is not all that, God help him if he got in there with Mosely or any other top Welterweight for that matter.
     
  3. warrior85

    warrior85 R.I.P THUNDER Full Member

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    hope it happens,im pickin collazo again
     
  4. 555east

    555east Well-Known Member Full Member

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    all the robbery crap has gotta stop ... 2 judges had it 114-113 you know

    any updates on the WW cluster? Mosley-Berto on? Dan Rafael says that if it goes down, Berto will be stripped of WBC title

    and what's the deal on Aydin? all I know is he's Turkish, undefeated and has 15 wins by knockout

    he's ranked #2 by the WBC for those who want to know. so would he and Collazo fight for the vacant or Interim WBC belt?
     
  5. Capitan

    Capitan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Same here....hopefully Collazo won't allow Andrea to steal any rounds with those
    quick little flurries...
     
  6. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Im confused about this id like to see Mosley smash Berto but I also wanna see Collazo beat Berto agian and avenge one of his 2 robberys. Mosley needs a fight so damn bad though.
     
  7. 555east

    555east Well-Known Member Full Member

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    after rewatching the fight

    one of the biggest arguments I have is if you listen to Lederman he claims Collazo out punches Berto throughout the fight citing particularly rounds 6 and 7

    yet when you look at the compubox #'s in punches landed and thrown in both those rounds Berto threw and landed more.

    plus Collazo lost the last two rounds of the fight.

    that's why I don't have a whole lot of sympathy toward Collazo. the bias commentary
     
  8. cubex

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    It ain't bias.Lederman is just an idiot.
     
  9. 555east

    555east Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yeah I've heard that argument too regarding Harold's stupidity. for what its worth he did have Williams winning over Quintana in their 1st fight (which looked like a pretty clear Quintana UD)

    oh Harold. he had some rounds pretty fairly .. but to say Collazo "outworked Berto" and then cite a round where Luis landed SEVEN punches

    wow. if people go by Harold's scorecard (115-112) or use Lederman as a reason to vouch for Collazo. I can see easily why they feel Luis won.
     
  10. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Lederman scored that fight for Quintana, 115-113.
     
  11. cubex

    cubex Boxing Addict banned

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    That's what he said ain't it?:huh
     
  12. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    :roll::rofl
     
  13. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Typo, I fixed it.
     
  14. cubex

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    He scored it for Willaims 115-113.
     
  15. 555east

    555east Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I coulda sworn Lederman had it for Williams by 2 rounds. checking the fight clip right now.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWcDGns1eQE&feature=related[/ame]

    3:32 of the clip .. Lederman had Williams ahead 115-113 I win.

    and compubox might not be THE soundest logic to use to score a fight/rounds but at the same time, how can you give someone like Lederman credibility for saying Collazo outworked Berto ... when the #'s for those rounds (6 and 7) handily favored Berto

    it's just 2 rounds ... not the whole fight

    but if you give those 2 rounds to Berto instead of Collazo ... that 115-112 Collazo W

    becomes a 114-113 Berto W. 2 judges had Berto by a point.