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I agree.

 

I don't think Classic or many folks realize just how many different PEDs there are alongside the endless combinations and variables. Saying I use "PEDs" Is a broad a statement as saying "I eat food".

 

Functional mass

 

The way you word this is dangerous. It invokes images of an eldrich fetish I haven’t heard of yet.

 

Yes both sizes benefited. But The starting point was different. the giants went from the “being physically hindered” point (at the elite level) to “physically advantaged” point through a combination of modern factors that were inconceivable before. The smaller ones, who could already operate at elite level the way they were, began to benefit in that they could function at that level whilst carrying even more weight. So it helped both sizes.

you put big guys today back then and have them develop as fighters on only what was available then and it goes back to how it always was at elite level. Everyone weighs less but the taller ones are less good.

 

Correct. But together with a different training regimen for a giant, say more tailored to strength and conditioning, than running and cardiovascular activities aiming for long distance could prevent this.

You don’t see many six foot seven inch tall marathon runners do you? But we do see a lot of power lifters that tall. Guys this tall represent just 1% of the human population remember.

The short explosive bursts developed under new advances and altered pace enables previously inadequate sized fighters become functional at elite level against other Superheavyweights.

modern training invented the Superheavyweight. The doors were opened.

 

Don't know to be honest. It just looks that way on camera.

 

Could you direct me to the old time giants who had heart attacks?

 

Could you direct me to a six foot seven inch tall elite level marathon runner?

 

They must have all had heart attacks.

 

Giants, say six foot six tall and above, always sat in the top 1% of the human population. And they still represent that figure.

Seems to me, Traditional training methods,
Before improved nutrition, training and science and more readily available information both legal and illegal transformed what was physically achievable, for the first 100 years or so prior to the 1970s, the athletes that dominated boxing got no bigger than Joe Louis. Roughly speaking. And that’s a very long time.

For that length of time there was no need for cruiserweight. Think about that.

A conclusion that I consider reasonable is that whilst there always was giants, the advances had not yet arrived that enabled the giant to carry sufficient weight for their size and function as elite level boxers.

It’s like it took them only so far. They were unable to develop as fighters beyond a certain point. Sometimes it was good enough..but until modern advances came it was never enough to dominate a division.

It’s went beyond that now. Today we have the modern super heavyweight. And they have taken over the division. It literally is the super heavyweight division now. Just like the Amatuers. Heavyweights still exist. But not in their own division. Like the giant, They carry more weight than before in order to compete with a size of athlete that never existed before. An athlete that could never have exist before. Now it is the old heavyweight that is hindered.

 

No, it isn’t. There are more big guys to choose from now. The NBA didn’t get big because of changes in training.

 

There’s more of everything now. Percentages stayed the same. Google it.

“In the US population, about 14.5 percent of all men are six feet or over. Roughly 1% of women are 6 feet tall or taller. The equivalent height cutoff for men (only 1% of population taller) is about 6ʹ4″.

 

Yes, there are more big people now, even if you believe that the percentages stayed the same. Glad we agree.

 

It’s probably only a marginal increase in a country like America where, until the rest of the the world caught up, always was a much taller nation of people.

Before the Second World War, Ethnic Europeans born in America were much taller than Europeans in actual Europe.