Dempsey a thief claims Ez's Camp !!!

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by he grant, Mar 18, 2012.


  1. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    You seem to misunderstand the difference between maths and logic and being 'PC' you cretin.

    Black Voters voting for Clinton: 94%
    Black Voters voting for Obama: 95%

    That's effectively what you're alluding to, do you actually believe that or are you just being disingenuous?
     
  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Stone, what "bad decisions" do you think were suffered by cocoa kid?

    For a great fighter he lost a lot in his prime.
     
  3. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think we did this before. Do a search.
     
  4. SLAKKA

    SLAKKA Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cocoas loss to the much larger Georgie Abrams was bs. As stone and i have swapped mondo notes i will butinsski.
     
  5. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Yes! Like a moment of clarity it's come back to me now.

    I'll search away! I remember the thread I think. It was one of yours :good
     
  6. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Look PP. ONE LAST TIME. I,before you entered this was responding to a poster saying in effect the damn word "racism",is overused on this forum and in society in general...So I posted to this poster[not you] that black people as well, have their OWN race preferences,BY and LARGE, as shown in their overwhelming vote for Obama and black office seekers in general.
    This fact, cannot be denied as witnessed for example that about 95% of the black votees , voted for Obama whilst about 46% [your figures] of white voters voted for Obama...What this disparity amongst most all elections show me that racial preference, runs through all society..In every rule there is an exception,and Bill Clinton was an exception to that rule...One swallow don't make a spring... The overwhelming facts are on my side, and blacks ,whites, whoever have a right to choose whom they identify with and vote for, and I because I cite these statistics will not allow myself to be castigated by you or anyone...This forum is becoming
    to me a battleground on social issues ,not what I joined the forum 2 years ago, and if I am in the minority and scolded for being ignorant and
    watching Fox News, then maybe I am in the wrong forum, and I can live with that...My memory's of the great fighters I have seen going back along time, will sustain me if I must leave...
     
  7. SLAKKA

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  8. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's fair to say that many of his losses were decisions that could have gone either way, some were questionable, he was handcuffed for a bunch, and a few were robberies. Remember also that his rate of fighting could get extraordinary, his level of comp was a factor, as was the distances he travelled -mostly by train. Remember also that when he was discharged from the naval reserves, it was due to a medical condition... namely, dementia.
     
  9. lufcrazy

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    Thank you.

    I have two fights in particular though.

    In March 45 he beat Williams (who I believe was the best MW in the world going into that fight)

    In April 45 he lost to Joe Carter.

    My gut insticnt tells me that Cocoa was pretty much shot by this time but still held a stylistic advantage over Williams, but against other contenders he was no longer good enough.

    That's what my paper analysis tells me.

    The victory over Williams is an SD though so I'm not sure how legit that is, and he would twice go on to beat Carter so I'm not sure how legit that loss tiself is.

    Any infgo on these two would be brilliant :good
     
  10. Legend X

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    Dempsey scored a lot of even rounds in the Charles-Layne fight. He was a good fighter and a competent referee, but he wasn't necessarily a good judge. Then again, I kind of like scoring rounds even myself - if they are even they are even.

    It's funny if people are seriously implying he favoured fighters because of their skin colour.
    The man refereed hundreds, perhaps thousands, of fights. You would need dozens of examples of terrible calls to even begin to suspect racism if you're fair-minded.

    Personally I find it hard to scream 'robbery' too loudly on a fight I've never seen. :lol:
    I don't even know how that's done.


    I'd certainly give Charles a pass on the Layne loss. Without necessarily regarding it as an unjust decision.