Boxing is missing a lot these days. Gone are the days where past greats talk intelligently about the sport. This is a good listen worth ten minutes of your time. Do you agree or disagree with them? [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuLWvYRpVR4[/url]
Ali stood over Listen that is why he did not get up. He was significantly afraid of Ali because he thought Ali was crazy. Jersey Joe messed up by listening to the ring announcer say that 10 seconds had already passed. And then awarding the fight to Ali.
Ali told Liston to " get up " because nobody will believe this! He threw the punch. I have seen the reverse angle and the punch did land and move Liston a bit. The other side of the coin is Liston's ability to take a punch is overrated. I think Liston felt the punch incorrectly picked the best moment to take a dive. Or he just quit due to a lack of intestinal fortitude. We'll never know but the fight was not on the level. Ali shook Liston up in the first fight prior to Liston quitting.
I think only the blindest Ali fans think it was a legitimate KO. There is no way to intelligently believe this was an earned victory for Ali.
The HD slow mo replay looks pretty telling to me. Surprised Ali had the one shot power to pull it off.
It might help if you could have written " Gone are the day's " as opposed to, " Gone are the say's ". Also, it might have helped if " any " of the invited " experts " knew anything about hand speed, in comparison to Ali. Which unfortunately they f&&&king didn't. NEXT.
I'm of the opinion the punch landed. Liston didn't see it, and was hurt. The fact he puts his hands out to brace his fall lends me to believe it was a flash knockdown and for whatever reason Liston decided to quit.
Trying to act smart and pick a fight doesn't pull weight with those who know boxing. The punch had nothing on it, I was taught and practiced the anchor punch for years and done right it has amazing impact, Ali's on Liston had no power and the speed wasn't a factor. Cannon and the Rock were at ringside and saw it the same, Dempsey saw it and left it at that.
All the controversy centered on the phantom punch. It shouldn't have. That took the attention away from the real rotten apple, which was Walcott's officiating. Awarding the fight to Ali was probably the biggest abuse of a referee's authority in boxing history.
I've always said, and still do, that if you land a ko punch, you know it and Ali knew he hadn't. Walcott was at fault and so was Nat fleischer who got involved in the fight for some reason. Whatever reason liston had for taking a dive we'll never know??
It was a dive that Liston changed his mind about. Liston heard the booing and cries of "fix" and decided he'd get up and keep fighting, since there had been no count. He probably thought he'd go down in a latter round more convincingly. That's my take on it. It's the only scenario that fits what happened.
