Dempsey is today's Ali.

Tyson faced, and defeated, the ones he needed to defeat in his brief prime.

 

I didn't miss anything. Tyson did just as I said during his brief prime.

 

So is Dempsey Tyson or Ali? I'm confused he supposedly didn't goto war and also beat his wife so which is he?

 

Except Douglas. I won't accept the argument that a 24 year old Tyson was shot by that time. Sure, he wasn't in top shape, but he was a lot nearer his prime than Ali was any time during his post Thrilla in Manilla-career. It definitely was no fluke that Douglas took Tyson to school, you could see the same flaws in Tyson's fight against Tucker almost three years earlier. If Tucker hadn't hurt his right hand it is anybody's guess how that fight would have ended. Tucker actually won two of the first three rounds, but lost the rest of them more or less - after hurting his hand.

 

I dont see Dempsey being mentioned everywhere. Ali far more so.

Go in to any decent bookshop in any big town or city and in the sports section you might see as many as a dozen books about Ali, and you might see another half-dozen different ones in the shop down the street.

Posters, postcards, T-shirts. Ali is more of an icon these days, far more than Dempsey.

If you go back to the 30s, 40s or 50s (when boxing was daily news), Dempsey would have been mentioned all over the place in a boxing sense. He's nowhere near as well known nowadays, he's just another great historical boxer, people might know the name as general knowledge or they might not, he's no longer THE famous boxer.
I dont see many postcards or key rings of him. There may be some. There must be.
I've heard there's a Dempsey museum in Manassa.

Perhaps Jimmy Braddock is more famous now, he must be quite well known from the Russell Crowe film.

Maybe the situation is different in America. I live in the UK.

 

Not really.

If I were to ask the average person between 10-40 years of age, if they've ever heard of Jack Dempsey, most of them wouldn't know he was. Some would recognize the name as belonging to an agressive species of Cichlid fish, commonly seen in a lot of American home aquariums.

Here is a pic of one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Dempsey_%28fish%29

 

It's about the only thing in Manassa.

 

I ain't kidding - if Manassa isn't literally a one-stoplight town it's close. The town purchased the old Dempsey house a while ago years ago and moved it to the center of town to serve as a museum. It's tiny - like, not quite Elvis's birthplace in Tupelo tiny, but close.

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Fair enough.
I understand now.

I was assuming you meant Dempsey was popular, iconic and much discussed like Ali IN THE REAL WORLD, not simply here on ESB Forum Classic Section.
My bad.