Dempsey, Liston, Holyfield, Frazier.

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    And also more credible than labelling Dempsey the strongest HW of all time.
     
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  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol: somthing like that I'm pretty sure could be easily dismissed. It wasn't even strength he beat firpo on, it was handspeed. he just proved too quick for him.
     
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  3. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    Worth bumping.
     
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  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    There's lots of great posts on here.

    I wonder how many posters who are still here have changed/maintained their opinions.

    Choklab is still the same lol
     
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  5. TipNom

    TipNom Active Member Full Member

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    Holyfield
    Frazier
    Liston



    Dempsey
     
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  6. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Holyfield and Frazier are better clearly
     
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  7. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Dempsey is the worst without any type of doubt
     
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  8. louis54

    louis54 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Burt is right...he was almost always right !l....like the morlocks was !
     
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  9. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dempsey and Liston's best work came pre-title. Liston beat C. Williams, Machen, Folley and Patterson...but...

    Dempsey's 1918 was special. 20-1 (17 KO'S). First to drop n' stop Bill Brennan. First to KO Battling Levinsky. Smashes #1 contender Fred Fulton in 20 seconds. Defeats a healthy Billy Miske (who recently edged Harry Greb). Avenges the Flynn faux-par. And a sprinkling of quick wins. The Mauler's reign wasn't great but his resume is solid. With Tommy Gibbons and Jack Sharkey he may have more depth than Sonny.

    As for the other two...

    Frazier has the best single win. Holyfield has more depth (and scars).

    What do you like?
     
    Ted Spoon, Jul 24, 2020
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  10. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    According to some, not to others.
     
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  11. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    perfecto...
     
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  12. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Holyfield is clearly number one, Frazier is clearly number two. I don't know what the Dempsey-brigade have been smoking to have him so high, but I can't see it no matter how hard I try. He just isn't that level, hell, the third best here has TWO first round KOs over a guy better than him.

    Holyfield > Frazier > Liston > Dempsey

    H2H is an entirely different matter. I'd pick Liston to beat Frazier and Dempsey, with little hesitation. I'd also pick him over Holyfield, but I can see both winning that one. Frazier-Holyfield would be an all-time classic, and it's a 50/50 IMO, but more time I go with Fraizer's pace and ferocity to win. Dempsey loses to all three.
     
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  13. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Resume
    Liston/Frazier
    Dempsey
    Holyfield

    Their ranking as my favorite fighters:
    Frazier (1)
    Liston (3)
    Holyfield (4)

    Dempsey (9)

    H2H (against each other)

    Liston 3-0
    Dempsey 2-1
    Frazier 1-2
    Holyfield 0-3
     
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  14. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Frazier
    Fields
    Liston
    Dempsey
     
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  15. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's my order as well, although all of them are reasonably close.
     
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