Dempsey v Langford

Very true.

And similarly, I don't think Dempsey looks too bad against what was really as 'survival mode' Gibbons either.

Both these guys - Dempsey and Langford - were smart fighters as well as cracking punchers, imo.

 

Dempsey wasn't prime in 1917, and you know it.

I misconstrued jack ****, you arbitrarily pick dates out of the air.
Stop with the B S.

 

P, why can't you refrain from insulting me ? Why can't you be civil ?
Either use my name as given and cut out the random insults or I will be forced to swim across the pond and take you into the wood shed...
Words have meaning sir!!!

 

Was Dempsey prime in 1917, when he was 21 years old?

Yes or no?

 

Dempsey! Dempsey! Dempsey!

*swings golf club*

 

The Gibbons fight is definately an telling victory for Dempsey for a couple of reasons.

It showed he could go 15 in the hot sun and he chased down a defensive specialist and won clearly on points.

For what its worth I would say Dempsey started hitting his prime in 1918. In 1917 he was still struggling against guys he would or should have been beaten easily a couple of years later.

 

Good for Gibbons to have those AC's installed in his corner! Dempsey should have been so smart.

Dempsey clearly liked to go against the bigger guys than the smaller ones. And reading the next day reports and ringside quotes, he was really breaking down Gibbbons. On the other hand, Gibbons claimed that Dempsey fouled him the whole way with the house ref, Jimmy Daugherty, paid to look the other way.

 

Dougherty was a close personal friend of Dempsey's, so he was definately there to protect the champ. Dempsey had personally requested his services for that fight, Miske, and one other which he was unsuccessful in getting his way.

Against Carpentier he used Harry Ertle who was also known to protect the house fighter.

 

Dougherty refereed Dempsey just twice.
He was a close personal friend of many boxers being a manager and promoter. I've read he was very colourful, with a big heart staking many down on their luck boxers , but never that he was crooked, until now that is.
I don't think Dempsey needed any protection against Carpentier.
Ertle only refereed Dempsey once ,and he had been the third man in the ring in Carpentier's previous fight so presumably he was acceptable to Carpentier?

 

Dempsey v Carpentier, Boyle's Forty Acres, 1921
Was there even a "house fighter" at that match ?

At least half of America seemed to be supporting the Frenchman, because Dempsey was a draft-dodger.

 

I'm picturing Langford in a curly Harpo Marx wig.