Dempsey v Liston...

The link is BS imo.Young Foreman went the distance with Greg Peralta,Levi Forte,and Roberto Davila .
Why do you suppose he would "batter",Brennan,Miske,Gibbons, Sharkey,Fulton,Smith etc?

 

The link is of newspaper article with fighters own quotes.

I dont see any skills of any of the names mentioned that would stop a power puncher of Foreman ,looking at Firpo who was the biggest ,skilled guy Dempsey fought ,i do not see where he is on Foreman level at any point , I dont generally rate Foreman highly skilled and limited ring IQ in his first boxing span but i cant really see the way Dempsey era fighters fought lasting with him ,they are to wide open for aggressive fighters .

 

Liston inside of five.

 

Tunney has the right style for Foreman.

Not saying he would best Tunney, but Tunney has the right style.

 

I wouldn't call Firpo skilled at all, Willard had much more science than him.How do you account for those opponents of Foreman's I mentioned going the distance with him?

 

They had a plan to survive not win ,

Carpentier was the most skilled boxer Dempsey fought in his prime was winning all the rnds before he was caught . The one thing he didnt have was power ,guys like him at 170 pounds is in no shape or form compared to Foreman or Liston . This is the basic point ,its not really who went the distance with Foreman its who had better showing against aggressive fighters bc that is the match up here .

Liston is skilled ,yet Firpo was able to put Dempsey out of the ring,so im not sure what your getting at?

 

Using a highlights/knockouts video to summarize a fighters strengths and weaknesses...pretty much sums up your logic.

 

Carpentier could not carry Gibbons gloves as a boxer,and he wasnt winning anything Dempsey,at Rickard's request allowed Carp to go a few rounds to give the punters a run for their money. And Carpentier had a very good right hand punch that destroyed lot of fighters.

What I'm getting at is you making sweeping statements about the skill set of fighters you haven't even seen, Miske Smith,Fulton etc ,and those you have, only fleetingly on poor quality film.

I'm a huge Dempsey fan, he is my favourite fighter ,but I try to be objective .

Buddy Baer knocked Louis nearly out of the ring, does that automatically mean Louis loses to another fighter?

 

I have to agree here!

 

This is just bizarre. Gibbons was the most skilled guy Dempsey actually beat. Jack practically carried Carpentier.

 

You didn't see the Carpentier fight closely then ,he literally was boxing Dempseys head off,the only thing he lacked was power,hitting Dempsey with countless straight rights and some hard uppercuts,had that been liston it would have been lights out. Gibbons was never in the lead in the Demspey fight. you can argue the best BIG guy Dempsey beat is either firpo or gibbons but they were not landing on him like Carpentier was.

 

Well this convo is a losing battle for both of us as you clearly haven't seen the Carpentier fight thru unbias eyes.

you are the one who said Firpo was not skilled at all ( yet knocked Deemsey out of the ring) that's bizarre in itself because then it says a skilless fighter has a shot to hurt Demsey( he was actually thrown back in the ring by outsiders) ,so that means someone with skills and more power would be a big problem for Dempsey...yes or no?

Baer knocked Louis out of the ring on sheer size,not skill so again this shows had Baer had advanced jabbing skills he probably wins that fight or the very least keeps it more competitive.

 

says the kid who thinks a 6'0 Lewis would be a better fighter than a 6'5 Lewis..please go cry to the mods again you imbecile...lol

 

I wish I knew boxing like this gentleman

 

A 6' Lewis with an 84" reach would definitely be harder for Dempsey than the 6'5 version. Do you think a 7' tall fighter with a 67" reach would be hard to beat? Lmao @ you not realizing that when people say height advantage they are talking about reach.