Dempsey v the other great heavyweights

atsch atsch going by that logic I imagine marciano finishing what luis firpo did in the 1st round. marciano early TKO.



Jack Dempsey has a better chance of beating babe ruth in a home run derby than finishing rock off in 1-2 rounds, just aint gonna happen. marciano was WAYY to durable, and dempsey just wasnt big enough or good enough to do that.

I dont see anyone man ever stopping marciano early, and only 3 men in history i think are capable of stopping rocky maricano.........they are joe louis mike tyson and george foreman. some might decision him but few could stop him. hes too durable too strong and too much heart.

 

On his best day, I'd give Dempsey an even chance against any of them.

I'd expect him to beat George Foreman and Lennox Lewis.

 

I'd LOVE to see Jack against The Rock..being from Massachusetts...I'll take Marciano...Dempsey over Foreman by KO.....He KO's Lewis....

 

Ali-Dempsey. Ali is too fast and would be able to beat Dempsey by late KO. I pretty much agree with your assessment.

I agree with you on Dempsey-Louis. Louis was a little more accurate and would land the more telling blows, but anything can happen here.

Liston beats Dempsey. Liston would hit Jack coming in and I don't favor anyone over Liston that goes toe to toe with him...

Lewis wins over Dempsey. Not only does he have the massive size advantage, he is mobile and has the skill to negate Dempseys charges.

I'd pick Dempsey over Johnson. Johnson was a great fighter but Dempsey would be able to outwork him, and beat him up. Dempsey is no Ketchel.

Tyson beats Dempsey. Tyson idolized Jack and was pretty much Dempsey with better technique, stronger, faster hands, hit harder, had a better chin. He was also less wild with his punches. Pretty much a hybrid Jack Dempsey.

I don't know much about Jackson, I'd pick Dempsey to be able to KO him but I honestly don't know enough about him

Dempsey beats Jeffries. He'd get enough of a lead early that even if Jeffries survived and won the late rounds it wouldn't be enough to win. Dempsey by mid round KO or close UD.

I agree on Frazier-Dempsey. Dempsey would blitz him early and end it.

Dempsey of the Willard fight beats Wills, but any version of him after that loses.

Dempsey vs. Marciano is very tough, I dont know who to pick. I'll pick Marciano because he would dominate the later rounds of the fight.

Dempsey loses to Holyfield. The Tyson that fought Holyfield was much bigger and hit harder than Dempsey, but couldn't come seriously close to dropping him. Of course, prime Dempsey was faster and more ferocious than that Tyson, but I think Holyfield could edge it.

Foreman-Dempsey is a toss up. Foreman's defensive skill was lacking and Dempsey was a top 3 all time puncher. At the same time, Foreman hit so hard and was so strong he could bully and beat Dempsey. I could see each of them losing.

 

I think he'd beat Louis, Holmes, Johnson and Jeffries. I favor Ali and Tyson by pretty decent margins. Favor Lewis and Liston by very small margins. Can't really speak on Jackson.

 

Ali too fast?? I belive Dempsey is about the same on foot going forward, as Ali is going backwards. It will be a close fight imo.

 

It would be a brawl definently but Dempsey didn't have the stamina of a Frazier that could pressure Ali from start to finish either. Speed alone wouldn't win it for Ali of course but it would certainly play a major role as Dempsey wouldn't be able to chase him down easily.

 

Perhaps, but people seem to forget that Dempsey was fast also. Both in foot and hand speed.

 

I agree with that. Dempsey probably had the fastest feet out of any puncher in history and the only puncher with faster hands is probably Tyson. But Ali was faster than Dempsey

 

Dempsey had underrated stamina.

 

Well, there are ropes at the end of that ring, Dempsey is could cut off the ring, Ali wont be running with his back on the ropes.

 

That is a very good post, and I agree with a lot of it. I don't agree with all of it, but I'll reserve my fingers now. There is not a lot of differenses for me to point out.

I especially like the fact that you didn't wimp out on voicing your thoughts on a Marciano bout. Marciano has been dropped, and has never faced anyone as viscous as Dempsey with Dempsey's attributes. I'm not standing on this limb with you, but I won't say you are unreasonable for walking out on it.

 

I don't know why picking Dempsey over Marciano is going out on a limb. Most tend to agree it'd be a close fight, and usually when it's brought up the board it pretty split as to who would win.