Dempsey v Walcott and Charles ?

I think this is because both were hugely underated in there day, and watching film people realzied how modern both are in style and how underated there resumes are.

 

Tunney did say, that Dempsey could beat Charles, Walcott and Marciano on the same night, one right after the other, and in less than 5 rounds.

 

I think Ezzard Charles has a very good chance of outboxing Dempsey. Jack fought few fighters who were as technically sound or as durable as Ezzard, while Charles proved that he could hang in there with big punchers and even win from time to time. As for Walcott, its a tough pick, but again I think Joe had better boxing ability than a lot of guys in the 20's, and a reasonably good punch and chin to compliment it. Dempsey could have beaten both, or lost to either of the two. I think a lot of it depends on how these three men show up. I think any of them would have to be at their absolute best to beat the other though. The Charles and Walcott saga proved this.

 

And exactly how much merit do you give this claim? Especially coming from a man who beat Dempsey twice? Do you think that there may be some circular logic at work here?

 

It was Gene Tunney. I think his option should be weight into this. though the Ape vs Man dream fight was crazy.

 

It was Gene Tunney. I think his option should be weight into this. though the Ape vs Man dream fight was crazy.

 

So the testimony of Gene Tunney, that Dempsey would beat three all time greats on the same night consecutively, resulting in early Ko wins against all three, sounds like a reasonable claim to you?

 

The Elitist? I guess his word must mean everything.

 

This is why Dempsey for a long period was rated at or near #1, over Joe Louis. A ridiculous assessement, but obviously based on heroic stories and autobiographies instead of film and records.

 

I think the Tunney & Sharkey fights take the edge off how really good Dempsey really was. His true prime is not well filmed.

But I would include him in the List of "Who you don't want standing it the corner across the ring from you at the start of a fight" which includes Tyson, Liston, Louis, Marciano, Frazier and Big George (of the modern era). Somebody's head is getting ready to be taken off.

 

BIG DEE HERE= I think Dempsey would take them both out before the 15 rds
were up. After 45 years of figuring Dempsey`s fight with Tommy Gibbons is Dempsey did a masterfull job of holding him up untill the train got there so they could take the money and run. The train wasn`t to get there untill 10 mins after the 15th rd was over. If they had gotten the money and had to
wait for 45 mins to 1 hour they probably wouldn`t have gotten out of Shelby,
Montana in one piece with the Bankrupt towns money. I came to a conclusion
years ago that he held Gibbons up so they could make their getaway. To me Dempsey always looked like he was holding back in the Gibbons fight as I had that film when I was a kid and watched it over and over on my wall in super 8mm.