Dempsey not fighting either Harry Wills or Harry Greb has been pretty much done to death. Let's just have a vote ,prime for prime 15rds . Who wins these matches? Dempsey v Wills ? Dempsey v Greb? Sh*t or get off the pot!
Going by the available footage I pick Dempsey without a moments hesitation over Wills. Wills looks too upright, lacks any head movement, doesn't possess anything special in terms of speed and those waist height hands are a recipe for disaster against a swarmer with genuine two fisted power and hand speed. I reckon Jack ices Harry within 5. Obviously having never seen Greb it's a bit more difficult to make a prediction but physically he is far too small and feather fisted to keep Dempsey at bay for 15 rounds and I think Jack eventually wears the faster and more elusive Greb down by targeting his body and probably stops him around the tenth round.
If you put a gun to my head I would say that he beats both of them. Wills doesn’t seem to have the right style to fight him. Greb would have success for a while, but there would only be so much ring for him to run around. I am equally adamant however, that he needed to prove me right in the ring.
Kearns said that Wills was made to order for Dempsey with his hands held far away from the face style which makes it easy to bob and weave under. He said that if he had been managing Dempsey at the time, he would have insisted Jack have two tune up fights before Tunney with Wills being the first.
Wills just not mobile or quick enough to avoid Dempsey so it ends quickly possibly within the first few rounds. Greb is a 5'8 165 pound middleweight. First solid punch by Dempsey ends the fight.
Along comes a neutral thread and many alts rears his plug ugly face, he is a member of good standing of the GOL, Gossiping Old Ladies. It was fine when you said "Id say he loses", cos it's an opinion, but you cant help yourself, you got stupid. No matter how many how many articles you pull up you cant prove he was afraid. Why you don't even know what constitutes a contract, negotiating tactics or boxing. You never, never, ever answered my questions on the Dempsey contract which you posted, going one further in the 60 articles you posted, I questioned you on the Pitts. fight, where you blame Kearns for the fight not happening. How dumb is that? When the evidence that you claimed supported your version turned out to be a time honored negotiating ploy. many alts claims there were offers upon offers, what he doesnt understand is an offer is just that an offer, but many alts and the rest of the GOL's, stick with that and point to them as proof of what they are saying. According to the GOL's thinking, when Dempsey was offered Carp 2 for good money and didn't fight, so in their warped minds it's proof that Dempsey was ducking, afraid, it was cos Dempsey was scared. Dempsey was also afraid of the Brit's which offer he turned down. Since you dksab, you hang your hat on the "Sparring" story". A trained Dempsey for a Greb fight would be an entirely different story and with 5-6oz gloves, please. I asked you time and again who Greb fought that had the speed and power and aggressiveness of Dempsey. Still awaiting an answer. The pysstorian cannot not think for himself unless there is an articles or articles which he can turn to. The answer is obvious why Dempsey never fought Greb, he was a MW, and the fans already saw what Dempsey did to Carp. they weren't gonna pay good money to see a Mexican jumping bean bouncing around and throwing feather dusting arm punches. Yeah, Dempsey was afraid, very afraid Please, go to the vid's, there is enough to give you an idea of how Greb must've fought, then couple it with the description of his fights and you will see it's right on the money. You never mention how dirty Greb was and the tactics he used. Why not?? Dempsey was afraid of Wills you have no proof of that at all. Anybody seeing the vid's of Wills in "action", can see how mediocre he was. People think for yourselves don't let the GOL's fool you they know nothing about boxing. The GOL's are bitter cos Dempsey didn't need to fight them despite that he made millions while they made peanuts lol
You've been just about the most vociferous and unrelenting disparager of Jack Dempsey that this forum has ever experienced. All I am asking of you,and everyone else on this forum is an honest opinion of what the result would have been ? So stop with the BS and answer the question.
Dempsey would have ko'd them both, the harder fight of the two would have been the Greb fight cos Dempsey would have had to catch Greb. The Wills fight would have been easier cos Wills was there to be hit
Over 15 you'd probably have to favour Dempsey. IMHO of course, which may not count for much since I am not a specialist on any of the three. Over a shorter stretch I'd take Greb. If Wills came out on top I don't think it would be a huge surprise either. And that's my foray into these shark infested waters.
Dempsey would win both fights, likely by KO. I agree that Greb would have been the harder fight of the two.