Dempsey vs Lewis

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  1. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I am one who thinks highly of Jack Dempsey raw power and delivery and I think Lewis was also a great offensive fighter.

    That being said this one ends by a KO before rd 5, both men were Ko'd by lesser punches, modern era favors Lewis 1920's favor Dempsey

    KO before 5
     
  2. janitor

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  3. Knights107

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    Honestly, Dempsey are my fav boxer than lewis..

    Lewis Ko'ed by 1 Single punch from lesser puncher than Dempsey..

    It's ignorant if we can't believe dempsey can do that..

    Imagine that left hook from dempsey vs willard fight landed on lewis..

    I pick dempsey because he is one of my fav boxer.. maybe I can't be Objective..

    anyone agree if lewis win bacause of his size? please answer? Size matters.
     
  4. Vanboxingfan

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    Of course Lewis' size is a major factor. I don't think anyone would pick him if they were the same size. But he was leagues more talented than Willard and if that one punch ko scentric was such a solid argument why didn't he loose the rematch against Rahman or his fights with Vitali, Mercer and many others? Even the hard punching Tua was helpless against Lewis once he felt his power. The point is that it's unlikely that the punch you are talking about lands.

    All that aside nothing wrong with being a Dempsey fan. Hard not to be.
     
  5. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Stylewise, Jack is Lennox worst nightmare. When did Lennox ever fight a guy with great footwork, bobbing and weaving, high pressure, tons of speed and power with a ton of aggression? McCall was absolutely none of those things yet was able to land one punch in the second round to put Lennox to sleep, yet you think Dempsey is tailor made for Lewis? :-( Lennox is tailor made for Dempsey.
     
  6. HerolGee

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    ur style of typing is like lordlosh.
     
  7. Knights107

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    Thank you bro for discussing or answer my question about 'size matter'
    I really appreciate it.
     
  8. Vanboxingfan

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    Yes, that explains are the losses on Lewis' record. And the fact that the unrefined Firpo could drop Dempsey repeatedly, shows what a suspect chin Dempsey has, never mind what Flynn did to him. :-(

    It's a moronic argument isn't it.
     
  9. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    He only dropped Dempsey twice. I'd hardly call that repeatedly.
    Only one KO loss in his entire career. Flynn knocked out a Dempsey who had gone without food for three days.
    Maybe for a moron like you.
     
  10. Vanboxingfan

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    Au Contraire, my feeble friend, that's the very definition of repeatedly.

    You mean you can use excuses??

    Well okay here are mine.

    How about Lewis was on his feet in the McCall fight and the ref waved it off, which most certainly wouldn't have happened in Dempsey's day, it definitely would have continued.

    Or how about going to fight at high altitude and not taking the time to acclimatize to that environment? which the rematch clearly demonstrated.

    Thanks,

    Actually you've just provided that Jack Dempsey would lose to any 5'10" fight under 200lbs, regardless of how pathetic their KO record is, because apparently that's how this works.
     
  11. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Since you're obviously not the sharpest knife in the drawer. The definition of Repeatedly: "over and over again"



    Well then he would've gotten knocked the **** out. :yep
    Your problem is you're stating things that haven't been proven.
    You literally just rewrote all my words and flat out put some in my mouth.
     
  12. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Anyone who has seen Dempsey struggle with the modest skills of Brennan and the size/strength of Firpo (the only two factors he had) would be nuts to pick him over Lewis. Of course Lewis was big, black, and talented so Dempsey wouldnt have gone near him. If Dempsey got rocked to his heals by 172 pound Carpentiers right hand on the way in what happens to him when his by Lewis right hand, his best punch? If Dempsey was outboxed by the one-two tactics of Brennan how is he going to deal with Lewis? Ridiculous. Yeah, he beat Willard a paunchy, undertrained, mediocre fighter who hadnt been in a ring in three years by standing over him and wailing him whenever he looked like he might rise. The sorry excuse for a fighter that Willard was in 1919 was no Lewis. Neither was the dying miske, the overhyped lhw carpentier, nor the talented but undeserbing lhw gibbons, nor firpo either.
     
  13. klompton2

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    Actually Dempsey was down three times against Firpo. A flash knockdown Dempsey suffered was the first of the fight, later he was hit and touched both gloves to the canvas then still later he was knocked out of the ring. Thats three kds Dempsey suffered in the first against a guy who was as unskilled as any hw challenger in history.
     
  14. Vanboxingfan

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    Perhaps one could even say he was knocked down repeatedly.
     
  15. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Repeat means more than once. You ready should know this word because you appear to have repeatedly taken grade 8.




    Actually it's fairly well documented he was filming Ocean's 11 instead of training for his fight with Rahman. Please don't tell me you're this clueless about what took place. I know haters gotta hate as it's part of their DNA but at least pretend it's factually based.