Dempsey vs Norton

What round was this?

Call me crazy but I suspect that a comparison of Murray and Willard's overall footwork would go very, very, very poorly for Willard.

 

What? That was a response to someone saying that a trained fighter would never bring his back foot forward.

 

Ok, sure. But what round was that? (just curious)

 

Watching Willard's full fight with johnson makes appreciate his technique.. He had a solid stif jab and a launching straight hand to the body. I can see why he killed a guy prior. Johnson must have had a strong chin to not die from that punch.

 

No clue.

When I read his post, I searched Golovkin on YouTube. It was a highlight of his skills, and I scrubbed to the middle of the video where I found the clip.

It was too easy too find for a "flaw" that supposedly 3 week amatuers don't make.

 

Yeah, I really like how he can move in and out of distance to land a jab or a 1-2 with his size.

 

It was Golovkin who brought his back foot forward, not the other guy. Weird oversight for someone who acts so high and mighty about their understanding of boxing technique.

Also, you're saying technical "flaws" are not okay, unless there is some kind of justification?

The thing is I don't hold such an extreme view, such as Willard was the greatest, or that he was worse than 3 week amateurs.

 

So it's only okay to commit that flaw if they are moving side to side? Any other justifications to supposed flaws or is that the only one?

Also, can you find Willard doing what you're describing, so we have an actual reference?

Third, yes. It gives you crucial balance and positioning. Although sometimes it's to the advantage of punchers to move their back leg in front.

 

Some great footage there. Willard was as fit as any fighter who ever entered a ring that day in 1915. In his day it was understood he was no technical wizard in the ring. To underscore him as nothing more than a farmhand is a gross misinterpretation. Great jab, excellent right hand, chin of iron and as tough and willing as they come. His trainers set an excellent fight plan to defeat Johnson and Jess fought it to the letter. As Johnson attacked he would back away slowly standing straight up keeping himself at longer range and at the tail end of blows. That right hand Jess was throwing to the body set up that right hand to the head that ended the fight. Really a remarkable performance vs one of boxings all time best albeit an aged all time best.

 

An incredible last hurrah by Johnson, and indeed an amazing performance by Willard.

 

John!

A new case just hit my desk! This one is from 2013. Klitschko vs. Briggs. In this evidence I've uncovered, you can clearly see Briggs committing the immoral sin of bringing his front foot behind his back foot.

I don't know what we're going to do about this one.

https://streamable.com/09lw



Hmmmm maybe because he got punched, that was why he stepped back like that? YEAH! I really think we can roll with that, what say you?

 

I've just realized, that as a matter of fact, in that same clip, Klitschko also squares up after the punch! Oh boy we gotta be in full damage control now.

Look I came up with the excuse for Briggs, can you cover me, and find one for Klitschko?

 

Funny I lived in the gyms of NY all through the 70's and Rez comments are spot on.

 

You should not talk that badly of yourself. Maybe in a few decades you will know better of the sport.

 

What do you mean when you say "great jab" to describe Willard? Are you just saying that it was powerful? His delivery leaves much to be desired.