Dempsey Vs Patterson?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Fergy, May 23, 2025.


Who wins ?

  1. Jack Dempsey

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  2. Floyd Patterson

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    He fought and mostly beat everybody he could fight.
    Floyd gets a bit of stick for his defence s if I recall.
     
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  2. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    One of my favorite fantasy fights. I would pick Patterson to beat Dempsey everyday of the week and twice on Sunday, if not for Dempsey's power and Patterson's chin. Patterson could outbox and even knock Dempsey down, but Dempsey eventually gets to Patterson and stops him.
     
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  3. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Did he though? Did he?

    Who were his fast twitch opponents of heavyweight proportions?
     
  4. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Is Floyd "a fairly modern heavy" though?

    The division he controlled was a continuation of the lightheavyweight-filled one that Marciano presided over. Floyd himself -- the apex of the pyramid -- took six rounds to take out Pete Rademacher. An amateur with zero pro fights, who doesn't exactly look like a modern athlete on film. Floyd got knocked down in the process. It sounds a lot like Dempsey's sort of division.

    Floyd looks like progress from Dempsey's era, but neither of these guys look like the leap forward we see by the 70s.
     
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  5. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Yes, he was Cus trained fighter who possessed fast twitch.
     
  6. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    I know you may be joking, but it's too tempting not to ask: How can you tell who has fast-twitch muscles on Charlie Chaplin film?
     
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  7. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    If you know, you know.
     
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  8. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Touché. :sisi2:
     
  9. PRW94

    PRW94 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You note I said in my post that I thought late career Patterson could be competitive against Dempsey. I’ve said here many times, IMO Patterson became a better fighter after he lost the championship.
     
  10. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dempsey kills Patterson.
     
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  11. Shay Sonya

    Shay Sonya The REAL Wonder Woman! Full Member

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    Assuming, before this Fantasy Fight, Jack Dempsey gets to see films of Patterson in his prime and Floyd Patterson sees Dempsey in action and in his prime, I would not be surprised to see a Dempsey win by stoppage in the first or second round.
     
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  12. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    Jess Willard
     
  13. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    And I think Dempsey does better vs Rademacher and Roy Harris, meaning Dempsey doesn't get dropped by them and likely stops them sooner.
     
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  14. PRW94

    PRW94 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Floyd Patterson's historical cross that he has to bear, aside from Cus protecting him, is that he became heavyweight champion before he REALLY learned out to fight. Circa 1966-69 Patterson would have dispatched Rademacher and Harris with a lot less difficulty.
     
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  15. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I love Floyd Patterson but this looks like a very bad match for him. Dempsey was fast, powerful and ferocious.
     
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