Dempsey would destroy Foreman

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  1. radianttwilight

    radianttwilight Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree. Who ever backed Foreman up?

    The Lyle KD's were from Foreman walking into punches.
     
  2. prime

    prime BOX! Writing Champion Full Member

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    It would be foolish for Dempsey to try to push Foreman back. He wouldn't need to do it.

    Foreman was very hittable early on, even in his title-winning fight against Frazier and his demolition of Norton. Few heavies were as good as Dempsey at exploding upon an opening with a solid blow followed by a combo.

    Foreman's fights until Ali show me he was great at clubbing down limited foes with not enough firepower or versatility to deter him, but look at him in Zaire. Ali's rights and quick combos screwed his accuracy and poise. His only moments were against a rope-a-doping Ali.

    You cannot beat Foreman coming into him. But a guy with a punch, some defense, a chin and endurance has an excellent chance.
     
  3. round15

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    I find it amusing that most of the responses in this thread focus on Frazier's performance against Foreman in 1973 when making comparisons to Dempsey. Let me remind everyone that Foreman beat a Joe Frazier that was 10 pounds overweight, out of shape with no drive or head movement. Futch and Norton said this both in the sparring sessions prior to this fight. Foreman didn't beat the prime 203-206 pound Frazier that would've been in his face all night long. Foreman would not have been able to push off that Frazier as easily as he did, and he certainly would not have been able to hit that version of Frazier as easily as he did. Ali himself said that the FOTC Joe Frazier would've whupped Foreman, so I think it's unfair and inaccurate to conclude a Dempsey vs Foreman outcome based on Frazier's 1973 performance.

    Dempsey fought out of a crouch but his head movement was totally different from Frazier's. The key to this fight would be conditioning. Foreman was known to run out of gas, and I doubt he'd be able to put Dempsey away early. Foreman might have Dempsey on the canvas early in the fight if he has his jab working to set up his right hand. I'll say that either man could knock each other out late but 1973-1976 Foreman wouldn't outbox Dempsey. 1990's Foreman was a slower fighter but a much smarter boxer and would probably give Dempsey more trouble than the 1970's Foreman. Either way, this would be a good fight but I say Dempsey takes out the young George Foreman but older Foreman probably beats Dempsey by decision or late KO.
     
  4. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Can't believe this one is still going. Foreman by quick ko- within 5 minutes. But the baloney Dempsey hagiography still continues. Get your heads out your arses for a minute and forget the all-american hero shite you've been spoon fed by Fleischer and co, and imagine he was from Peru or something for a while. Then re-rate him. :good
     
  5. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Most people here don't even listen to Fleischer
     
  6. JohnThomas1

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    "and co"
     
  7. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    The real question is: will McGrain ever get over the the Jamaica 'incident'? :D
     
  8. My dinner with Conteh

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    But Dempsey's exactly like Lyle, right?
     
  9. JohnThomas1

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    What are you trying to achieve? You and your ideals will have Dempsey struggling to make the top 25!

    ;)
     
  10. My dinner with Conteh

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    :lol:
     
  11. Pat_Lowe

    Pat_Lowe Active Member Full Member

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    I think Dempsey takes out Foreman sometime after the 5th with a Check Hook.
     
  12. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    :lol:

    After which we will call him Captain Hook.
     
  13. My dinner with Conteh

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    Good points, Foreman's reputation as someone who wasn't a one punch artist suffers mainly because there was some real TNT in even those little, 'nothing' shots he threw- immediately stunning his opponent. George had a fine jab, which is the big difference Jack would find to taking on bigger men like Firpo and Willard, who fought like they were told that they would be disqualified if they so much as thought of throwing a jab. It's a pity Foreman didn't use it more, vs Chuvalo, Kirkman, etc, but once he started blasting people he neglected it. Even Clancy tried to make him work behind it more- and it was successful in a couple of fights, then he fought Dino Dennis et al and forgot about it again.
     
  14. McGrain

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    :huh
     
  15. MotorCityCobra

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    Agreed, a swarmer like Dempsey gets creamed by a huge puncher like Foreman. Though Tyson stands a much better chance.