Denis Lebedev V David Haye @ Crusierweight

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  1. drowller

    drowller Well-Known Member Full Member

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    dont you recon its British forum?
     
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  2. Strike

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    Lebedev is overrated. The fact it took so many of his clean shots on Enzos chin to put Enzo away shows that his power is not as good as it is made out to be.
    He is quite easy to hit and could well be outboxed by someone like Cunningham. That said he keeps coming forwards and his work rate and aggression would cause Haye problems. But it depends on how good his chin is. Fragomeni has a great chin. Lebedevs looks solid but has not really been tested that much.
     
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  3. -Diablo-

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    Lebedev would kill him
     
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  4. Farmboxer

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    Lebedev by knockout.
     
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  5. GoatySimpson

    GoatySimpson Active Member Full Member

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    Spot on. It was an uppercut on the inside that set Enzo off - if he had taken a knee at that point maybe he would have lasted. His tactics were all wrong that fight anyway. Haye would outbox Lebedev at range and be far to quick and explosive when on the inside.
     
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  6. White Tiger

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    Well actually Haye said his fight with Enzo didnt go according to plan.

    He planned to be more patient and break Enzo down gradually.

    That was when he realised he was gun and decided he needed to do something urgently so he let the bombs go before the cut became a issue and could have hampered his performance.

    Lebedev was more patient and controlled because he could afford to be.
     
    White Tiger, Aug 6, 2010
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  7. Strike

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    No, Lebedev was "more patient" because he is slower and doesn't hit as hard.
     
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  8. White Tiger

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    Sorry Claypole.

    The truth hurts - but they said to stop making polls about you a loser - they were sick of your name appearing on threads and polls where you were completely out of your depth.

    The MODS felt you had no business being in polls alongside the likes of ESB biggest names - Rumsfield, SwollenGoat, Strike, and McGrain.

    I have never been banned for making a Enzo thread.

    The reason why I was banned last time is because I made a thread called the Claypole Zone which you didnt probaly even see.
     
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  9. White Tiger

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    He dosent hit as hard as Haye - but then most Crusierweights didnt hit as hard as Haye.

    But he had enough power to **** up Enzo.

    And he would have enough power to **** up Haye - the real question is - would he be good enough to **** up Haye.

    Enzo had enough power to **** up Haye - but he werent good enough to land with anything effective.

    I think Lebdev could land on Haye with far more success.
     
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  10. White Tiger

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    I agree - but you have gone a bit extreme.

    Hayes best win was still Mormeck.

    Enzo was ovverrated and got exposed.

    Monte Barret is a Journeyman / Gatekeeper.

    Valuev was a good win - but Haye wasnt impressive at all.

    John Ruiz - was having the final fight (retirement purse) of his career and had litlte to offer.

    Basically Haye has very little chance of beating the Klitshcko brothers - they would trounce him. His only hope is a punchers chance against Wlads glass chin.
     
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  11. Strike

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    :lol:

    Really, and who has Lebdedev beaten?
     
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  12. White Tiger

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    Enzo :p
     
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  13. Escopeta

    Escopeta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Everyone he has ever faced as a pro. His recent victim Alexeev would have also beaten Haye. Haye would retire from boxing the next minute if Lebedev announces to move up to HW.
     
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  14. TheGiftedOne

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    Haye KO1
     
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  15. Escopeta

    Escopeta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mormeck was a paper champ, he got beaten up twice by Bell and somehow went away with the belts
    Valuev was also a paper beltholder. Chagaev beat him officially and Valuev somehow got the belt back after he performed an epic duckjob.
    Also Holyfield schoold him and he should have further loses on the record to the likes of Donald.
    Also i believe its obvious that the Valuev vs Haye fight was fixed.
    Haye won rounds by throwing two or three punches and running scared in GERMANY. Now these Sauerland ****s cash up using Haye big time in Britain. Grant SNV a rematch and give him the permission to KTFO Haye and he´ll get the job done inside 3.
    Haye has done ****, he was close to get stopped by powder puncher Fragomeni (his best win so far) let alone his loss and the various kd´s he suffered from other powder punchers.
    Lebedev would eat him for breakfast
     
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