Denver Jack THompson???

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  1. mcvey

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    Jack Thompson has wins over.
    George Godfrey
    Bill Tate x2
    Sam McVey
    TomCowler
    Jeff Clark x6
    Sam Langford
    Joe Jeannette
    Draws with
    Battling Jim Johnson
    Sam Langford x3
    He also has 5 no contests on his slate for what were fake bouts.
    Does anyone have any information as to whether his "wins" over those mentioned were kosher or were they hand cuff /arranged jobs?


    Below, some more info on him.

    http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/JackThompson.htm
     
  2. Senya13

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    When did Thompson beat Langford? If you mean the Nov 15, 1920 bout, it was held on Nov 16 and was won by Langford.
     
  3. Senya13

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    Don't know much about Apr 14 (not Apr 15), 1916 bout in St. Louis vs. McVea, other than short next-day wire from INS giving newspaper decision for Thompson.
     
  4. mattdonnellon

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    Yeah I've wondered about this guy too, found it hard to get info on him.
     
  5. mcvey

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    So Box Rec's info is incorrect?
     
  6. Senya13

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    1920-11-17 The Anaconda Standard (Anaconda, MT) (page 8 )
    TAR BABY AGAIN.
    MEMPHIS, Tenn., Nov. 16.--Sam Langford, the veteran Tar Baby, defeated Jack Thompson of Philadelphia in an eight-round match here tonight and did it without the loss of much sweat from his kinky brow.
     
  7. Senya13

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    Here's how Tom O'Rourke (manager of Fred Fulton) rated heavyweights before Thompson's bout with Fred Fulton on Apr 21, 1920:
    1. Jack Dempsey?
    Fred Fulton?
    2. Sam Langford
    3. Harry Wills
    4. Georges Carpentier
    5. Frank Moran
    6. Bombardier Wells
    7. Jack Johnson
    8. Jack Thompson
    9. Jess Willard
    10. Al Reich
    11. Battling Levinsky
    12. Bartley Madden
    13. Tom Cowler
    14. Charlie Weinert
    15. Joe Beckett
    16. Joe Goddard
    17. Bill Tait
    18. Bill Brennan
    19. Frank Farmer
    20. Gene Tunney
    21. Bob Martin
    22. Hugh Walker
    23. Gunboat Smith
    24. Ole Anderson
    25. Bob Roper
    26. Young Hector
     
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  8. mcvey

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    Thanks for the info on both posts.:good
     
  9. klompton2

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    I have the memphis comm. appeal here, ill check the langford result. i wouldnt trust the word of a montana paper for a bout held in tennessee.

    Is Denver Jack thompson the same thompson who fought Wills and was a sparring partner for dempsey briefly???
     
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  11. mcvey

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    yes..one and the same...very interesting fighter...most of the newpaper articles I have on thompson vs jennette...have jennette winning or drawing...of course another newpaper has thompson winning...6 rounds newpaper decision... question i have does anyone know about that fight jennette had against thompson on february 2, 1913?...love to hear feedback...jack thompson lived, worked and trained as a fighter in new jersey...i don't think anyone has ever written a history on this fighter.[/quote]
    This site says Thompson beat Langford twice in1920 On April 5th over 15rds and on Nov 15th 8rds.

    1920

    Jan 16 Jeff Clark Kalamazoo, Mi ND 10
    Feb 23 Battling Gahee Memphis, Tn KO 2
    Feb 28 Jeff Clark Terre Haute, In ND 10
    Mar 29 Jamaica Kid Columbus, Oh KO 7
    Apr 5 Jack Thompson Muskogee, Ok L 15
    Apr 9 Silas Green Denver, Co KO 3
    Apr 19 Harry Wills Denver, Co L 15
    May George Godfrey D 10
    May 31 Jeff Clark Columbus, Oh W 15
    Jun 7 Rough House Ware New Orleans, La KO 9
    Jul 26 Pinky Lewis Tulsa, Ok KO 9
    Aug 14 Sam McVea East Chicago, In ND 10
    Aug 30 Ed "Bearcat" Wright Walthill, Ne W 10
    Sep 6 "Big" Bill Tate Benton Harbor, Mi ND 6
    Oct 6 "Tiny" Jim Herman Portland, Or KO 7
    Oct 14 Frank Farmer Seattle, Wa W 4
    Oct 20 Lee Anderson Portland, Or L 10
    Nov 15 Jack Thompson Memphis, Tn L 8
    Nov 17 George Godfrey Hot Springs, Ar KO 2
    Dec 2 "Tiny" Jim Herman Portland, Or KO 7
    Dec 29 Jim Barry Portland, Or W 10
     
  12. klompton2

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    The Memphis Commercial Appeal makes no mention of the Langford Thompson bout in November of 1920. It does have a wire report two days later of his bout with Godfrey at Hot Springs. Strange. Im going to check his bout in 1920 against Gahee and see if its in there.

    edit: Yup his fight with Gahee is covered extensively, as is his earlier fight with Roughhouse Ware in 1914. I don't think Langford Thompson happened in Memphis in 1920. If it hit the wire then it may have happened somewhere else and been mistakenly credited to Memphis or just as likely one of the two guys' managers put that report out to make his fighter look better. Langford lost to Lee Anderson in October before his bout with Godfrey in Hot Springs. Maybe going into the Hot Springs bout they needed to hype him up a bit and make it look like he was less on the downside so they put this report out on the wires just days before the fight to drum up interest. Just speculation but Ive seen this kind of stuff before.
     
  13. mcvey

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    It seems a logical possibility.
     
  14. Senya13

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    Thompson didn't beat Langford. Not per next-day local newspaper Muskogee Times-Democrat and not according to another next-day report by Larry Dailey in Tulsa Daily World. Langford was the decisive winner.
     
  15. Senya13

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    As for the Memphis bout, Clay lists it for Nov 15, a win for Langford, based on Chicago Tribune, I just looked it up and they did have the result in their wire on Nov 16 (the bout taking place the previous day). On Nov 15 it was reported in New Orleans States as being scheduled for today (nov 15) in Memphis at Phoenix Athletic Club (which was definitely in Memphis).