Deontay "Burger Squad" impressive career so far.....

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  1. XCalibur79

    XCalibur79 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I can understand people not being sold on Wilder. His resume is dubious at this point, but not as bad as many of his detractors say. His list of opponents is far from stellar, but many of them have been in there with top of the line fighters and done decent, or at least similar to what they have done against Wilder. In many cases top fighters did worse against them than Wilder did, when they have been in there at all.

    Povetkin had a much more difficult time with Firtha than Wilder did, Malik Scott and Bermane Stiverne only lost one other fight each besides Wilder, and both were on very questionable stoppages. Wilder put Harrison away faster than David Haye could, Firtha away faster than Fury or Povetkin could, (Povetkin did not at all), And Liakovich away faster than either Jennings or Briggs. Duahapus beat Charr, one of the very guys Povetkin is getting hailed so much for beating.

    Arreola did put Molina away faster than Wilder, but again, Wilder did not have a 100% right hand for that fight. given how Wilder handled Stiverne with relative ease, its certainly not a stretch to say he could handle Arreola.

    even as a fan of Wilder, I still have some reservations about him. His lanky frame concerns me that he can be pushed around by a bigger and stockier fighter of similar height, I'm not sold on his chin, but I don't think there is enough evidence out there to say he has a glass jaw so much as a qeuestionable jaw. Wilder has taken some pretty good shots and stayed upright. But his detractors act as though he has been knocked out in every sparring session he's ever been in which is absurd. He would not be out there if that were the case, and he would have been knocked out by now regardless of the quality of the opponent.

    The Haye sparring session thing was overblown too, sorry. First off Haye is no slouch at all, if the guy didn't have an injury hex on him he'd have a chance to be an ATG. He fought Wlad with a busted up foot or that's a way different fight. Second of all Haye caught him with a flush shot and he didn't go down.

    If Povetkin beats him, I will eat crow. But I don't see it. I think for someone of Povetkin's height to beat someone with Wilder's combination of height reach and power you got to have great speed to get inside, and I don't think he has it.
     
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  2. Benitom3

    Benitom3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Address Nichols and Sconiers, two proffessional losers, putting him down.. That's terrible.. At least Wlad was kd by decent cans like TOS, Sanders, Peter with at least winning records lol
     
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  3. BoJangles

    BoJangles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :hey

    When I have the time...

    I'll go through each and every Fat Fry Cook that
    Wilder has fought in his pro career...

    :yep
     
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  4. XCalibur79

    XCalibur79 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    the Nichols KD was clearly a slip, just watched it again I don't even think he touched him.

    The Sconiers fight was a bad night, one in his 13th fight is not earth shattering.

    Like I said, getting knocked down doesn't prove you have a glass jaw, anyone can get caught with an off balance shot. Muhammad Ali got floored by 185 pound Henry Cooper. Did he have a glass jaw? Tyson Fury got flattened by a light heavyweight.
     
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  5. Benitom3

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    Bert Cooper would flatten Wilder too with that left hook. They left hook nearly ad lethal as the check jab
     
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  6. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    Uh, yeah. I didn't catch that.

    I may have had a stupid moment there, but you are truly a professional re****.
     
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  7. madballster

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    I hope the WBC strips him in that case.
     
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  8. Benitom3

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    --Knocked out badly by an unknown LHW in amatuers
    --ALSO, ko'd by a Polish Sausage in the amatuers
    --Squeaked by with a bronze somehow in the Olympics
    --Put down by morbidly obese Dustin "Big Worm" Nichols with a "Check-Jab"
    --Put down heavily and almost out by career loser Harold "Hard Roc" Sconiers
    --Built much of his career by beating sad corpses like Harrison and Lyakovich
    --Brought in personal friend Malik Scott to take an obvious dive
    --Did not fight the real champ for his "title" but a Don King manufactured Buffet champion
    --Knocked down by 2 Wlad jabs and out with one medium left hook in sparring
    --Destroyed and almost ktfo'd by Haye in sparring
    --Rocked heavily by a Firtha jab
    --Could not defeat Stiverne as convincingly as Demetrice King
    --Could not even knock Stiverne down like Rossy
    --Some of the most shameful opponents for his "title defenses" that the world has ever seen, showing his low self esteem
    --Rocked badly and almost out vs Molina ("Drummer Boy")
    --He did not perform as well agasint Molina as Arreola OR ASHANTI JORDAN, both of whom knocked him out in 1
    --Eye busted up and made to look like a gargoyle by Duhaupas ("The Reptile"), a French pastry chef
    --Sold as a nice guy, but actually spends his time beating up hookers and mental patient Charlie Zelenoff, who are ironically his best opponents
    --Dispresects great fighters like Tyson and Klitschko
    --Now trying to claim that Fury's "courageous" win somehow makes him champion.
    --Avoiding Povetkin like the plague
    --Seems to be using a new tactic,probably to mask steroid use, of not allowing his pathetic opponents a full camp
    --Was considering Wawryck, knocked out in 3 by his mandatory, as an opponent
    --Offered a shot to Adamek, a shot to pieces 39 year old former LHW who is 1-2 in his last three, but only allowed him a 6 week camp.
    --Avoided Briggs and Bronco Billy Wright, shot fighters who carry AARP cards
    --Will fight an unemployed Soccer Hooligan named Szpilka? on 4 weeks notice, and will underpay him, overfeed and hooker him up
    --Wilder's team, "Burger Squad", keeps removing and scrubbing the Internet of all of his shameful knockdowns and ktfo's; mostly while attempting a bad attempt at the "Ali Shuffle", which will now be called the "Burger Bungle".
     
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  9. BoJangles

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    :burger
     
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  10. BoJangles

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    :lol:
     
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  11. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    :deal
     
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  12. turnip

    turnip Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Blo0dy hell some of you lot really don't like Wilder. I would save your venom for when or if he is beaten till he is you are wasting time the bloke is 35_0 34kos like it or not he is a winner .your dislike is colouring your judgement. After all if Wilder is as bad as you say then he will soon be destroyed. hasn't happened yet though has it?
     
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  13. Benitom3

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    It is outlined in the Dossier why he hasnt lost yet.. He fights bums or people that come to lay down
     
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  14. turnip

    turnip Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If he beats POV which I think he will what do you do then?
     
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