Deontay is way over the hill and it showed , should retire and he will be a first ballot HOF

Too much opportunity to prove he was the premier heavyweight of the titlists and he never made it to assume he's first ballot. He will likely go because of the title defenses of arguably still the top title and being exciting though.

 

It's not about changing what the official rankings were... It's about questioning whether they were correct.

Rightly or wrongly Wilder was ranked high because of the belt - his accomplishments were always limited.

And fwiw I've never considered him to be in a different league from the likes of Parker, Whyte, Povetkin etc.

 

All people's accomplishments are limited because all people are limited. Come on dude, Wilder the GOAT>

 

If those guys had ten title defenses, they'd have also been top 3. It's a much stronger criteria than someone's opinion on who is better.

Parker's resume was hardly any better than Stiverne's.

Povetkin could've gotten the Wilder fight if he wasn't roiding.

White was probably no better than Ortiz.

These are just random contemporary guys. Wilder was champ and gave us more in 3 ass kickings vs. Fury than those guys ever did.

 

Wilder will absolutely never get into the HOF. Of that I am certain.

 

And who did Wilder beat ?

 

Exciting fighter with speed and devastating power stamina chin . Not much else but did very nicely and made a few quid. Time to pack it now

 

"Wlad came off a similar length of inactivity"

Not exactly. Wlad was coming off 17 months of inactivity (with the fire still burning strong), Wilder was coming off 26 months of inactivity (in semi-retirement), barring one round contested and an 11 round battering before that, preceded by 20 months of inactivity and a 7 round battering before that. Wilder was also subject to some of the most extreme criticism and ridicule in the history of the sport (especially over the 595 day period following Fury-Wilder 2), albeit partly self-inflicted. I think Wilder is far further gone mentally than physically but the two back to back car crash beatings from 35+ has to take a heavy toll.

By contrast, Bowe was retired at 29. In that case too, two brutal beatings finished him off.

 

Wilder HoF

1. 10 consecutive heavyweight title defences (2nd longest single reign since 1985 behind Wlad), best win being top 5 ranked, 30-0, 93% stoppage ratio Ortiz

2. KO record (highest KO % among heavyweight champions, lots of spectacular KO's, perhaps the most devastating right hand puncher ever)

3. Historic trilogy with lineal champion Fury (if Fury beats Usyk for the undisputed championship and retires unbeaten then Wilder's case is strengthened)

4. Most significant American heavyweight this century thus far (if Anderson and Torrez have less success then Wilder's case is strengthened), broke the 7.5 year American heavyweight title drought

 

That's a silly argument because Fury never fought most of his formidable contemporaries and also looked very poor vs Ngannou and Wallin. Most of Wilder's title defenses were not against top 10 heavies so they count for very little.

 

Fighters are allowed to look poor when they get old. You guys are all over the place. Apart from fighting Wilder 3x, he did beat Wlad, Chisora, Whyte... just about everyone you guys are sitting here shitting on Wilder for not fighting.

If Fury can't get any credit for beating these guys easily, why pretend that it would've been any different for Wilder? Apart from Wlad, these guys are inconsequential fodder used to disperse hate.

 

Idiots really sitting here thinking that Wilder will miss the HOF because he didn't fight Dillian Whyte. LMAO.

 

Because wilder wouldn’t have beaten the likes of chisora and whyte.
By Redbeards own admission Parker is at Whytes/Chisora level as he has stated many times and Parker has just not only beaten Wilder but won every minute of every round. It was an embarrassingly one sided fight and using Short round/Redbeard/Neetzscheans famous triangle theory logic it has been soundly proven that Wilder was never anything more than a domestic level plodder with very careful management.

 

3. Yes wilders case is strengthened by getting stopped twice by feather fisted Fury and somehow robbing a draw.
@NEETzschean/@Redbeard7//@ShortRound logic right there.

 

Wilder is completely shot. If Parker was anything special, he would've stopped him. But we already know that he isn't.
White and Chisora are also not special. No one is going to look back at Wilder's resume and ask about Dillian Whyte. LOL.