Deontay Leshun Wilder vs. Anthony Oluwafemi Olaseni Joshua

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IntentionalButt, Aug 12, 2023.


The Bronze Bomber or AJ?

Poll closed Jan 13, 2024.
  1. Wilder on points

    0.8%
  2. Wilder by stoppage

    72.7%
  3. Draw

    2.3%
  4. Joshua on points

    3.0%
  5. Joshua by stoppage

    21.2%
  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    It's fraught with danger for both men, predictions are useless.
     
  2. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    This is my only comment for this matchup.

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  3. BeantownAll

    BeantownAll Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't think a Wilder win is automatic. Let's say this fight does happen next January.

    • Wilder will be a few months past his 38th birthday
    • He will have fought exactly 1 round in the preceding 27 months
    And that's even before we're talking about stuff like Wilder's tendency to be caught by the most basic tricks, his untrainability, the fact that he now has more mileage on his clock than AJ. I could go on.

    This is pretty close to a 50/50 fight.
     
  4. TheWizard

    TheWizard I Got Milk Baby Full Member

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    Wilder KO. Both guys are vulnerable though.

    AJ can KO Wilder if he lands, but Wilder will land big first. I see a tentative AJ pushing Wilder back with his jab and then when AJ finally commits, Wilder will catch him coming in and that's all she wrote. The speed of Wilder's right hand is really hard to deal with.

    I was actually surprised at how much Helenius was hitting AJ early on tonight.
     
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  5. IntentionalButt

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    :thumbsup:

    Joshua looked like ass against Helenius until the KO, but everything you said above here cancels that out.
     
  6. Jacques81

    Jacques81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Most likely outcome really
     
  7. IntentionalButt

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    Interesting juxtaposition with the poll here so far:

    Wilder by KO 77%
    Joshua by KO 17%
     
  8. IntentionalButt

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    Bookmakers have Wilder at -120 and Joshua even money, FWIW.
     
  9. IntentionalButt

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    I'd expect official announcement from Hearn within a week, based on how close it was already said to be to finalized and his manner during the in-ring post-fight interview.
     
  10. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That is an astoundingly good price for Wilder, if it stays like that by the time the fight is officially announced, I'll be betting heavily on Wilder by KO.
     
  11. IntentionalButt

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    I'd expect a little bit of slide in the aftermath of today's fight as buzz spreads about how cautious and uncertain AJ looked for the first six rounds.
     
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  12. NullaLexInk

    NullaLexInk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Call me crazy, but I could still see AJ winning this one. As was pointed out earlier, if the fight really is in January, Wilder will be coming in with barely any activity in two years. Sure, power is generally the last thing to go and that's what he typically relies on almost exclusively, but the rust could end up playing a big factor, especially since we don't have a solid answer on just how good his chin is since the Fury loss.

    But AJ absolutely cannot fight him like he did these past two times. He was letting himself get tagged way too much both times out. That ended up working out fine in outpointing Franklin and eventually knocking out fragile chinned Helenius, but he can't afford to be that way against a big puncher like Wilder.
     
  13. IntentionalButt

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    Amen. The real smart money in this is on the Under, not either combatant.
     
  14. jmb1356

    jmb1356 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilder lands his right, AJ will mentally give up first, then it’s matter of time before he’s KO’ed or a stoppage.
     
  15. IntentionalButt

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    Either man lands a big right hand and it's over.
     
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