Deontay Leshun Wilder vs. Dillian Whyte

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Bronze Bomber or Body Snatcher?

Poll closed Jul 24, 2021.
  1. Wilder on points

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  2. Wilder by stoppage

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  3. Draw

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  4. Whyte on points

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  5. Whyte by stoppage

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  1. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Wilder has faster hands and feet, better athleticism, better chin and hits much harder. He has also fought better competition all round. No I don’t believer Wilder has ducked Whyte at all just another Whyte fantasy like the one he claims he and Jarrel Miller were banging Wilder’s missus.
     
  2. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Wilder in no way has fought better competitors
     
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  3. African Cobra

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    Wilder has fought Fury and Luis Ortiz twice in world title fights whereas Whyte fought AJ once at domestic level. It’s only in the UK Whyte is being given this status as a top fighter. I am certain he would lose to both Wilder and Joe Joyce and won’t be surprised if Dubois clipped him. Notice you don’t hear him calling out Joe Joyce.
     
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  4. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Lucus Brown, Parker, Povetkin X 2, AJ, Rivas,Chisora X 2

    Far more depth than Wilder

    Joyce would beat him easy but thats not what we are talking about here

    Wilder wouldnt fight him either
     
  5. BubblesUK

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    Jesus...

    Wilder is faster and more athletic - granted.

    Wilder has a better chin - suspect, getting battered by a famously feather fisted puncher the first time you're in with anyone decent doesn't typically suggest a great chin.

    Wilder has a better resume - Jesus H Christ!
    Wilders best win is comfortably Luis Ortiz, who has never fought anyone better than Bryant Jennings... Whytes got a bunch equal to or better than that - on resumes it's not REMOTELY close, Whytes is miles better.

    You don't believe Wilder ducked Whyte... Do you believe the Sun revolves around the Earth, by any chance? I'm not sure even Dubblechin would deny that Wilder refused to fight Whyte - he'd make some excuse, but he wouldn't deny it.
     
  6. N17

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    Whyte hasn't got the whiskers, we saw what old man Povetkin did to him when he landed a good shot.
     
  7. BubblesUK

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    Fury embarrassed and battered Wilder in 1&2 respectively - that only shows what Wilders level ABSOLUTELY IS NOT... Losing with some dignity intact and having given a good showing can enhance a resume, but Wilder didn't do that.

    Luis Ortiz is another massively overhyped fighter, (partly to help inflate Wilders fragile resume I wouldn't be surprised?) - his best win is Bryant Jennings.
    Ortiz is Chisora level at best IMHO.
     
  8. BubblesUK

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    True, if Wilder could land then he'd be unlikely to get up.

    The question is whether Wilder would've still been standing at that point and whether he'd have had the skill to produce a counter of that quality.

    Povetkin was a proven top level fighter, far far more proven than Wilder - lots of questions over this potential matchup.

    All irrelevant questions as Deontay has never had the stones, but interesting conjecture all the same.
     
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  9. N17

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    Whytes been on the floor a few times, out for the count on two occasions.

    Whytes best weapon is that left hand, I think he would be so concerned about Wilders right hand he would not throw a left hand.

    Then sooner or later Wilder would throw a straight right hand, maybe even through Whyte guard and blitz him.
     
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  10. African Cobra

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    Sorry Lucas Browne is nothing so much so even an ex Rugby League player Paul Gallen is knocking him out earlier than Whyte did. In fact right the Paul brothers Logan and Jake could knock him out and they are not real fighters. The win over Parker has more to do with Parker issues than Whyte’s virtues as a fighter. An over 40 year old Povetkin way past his best brutally knocked out previously by AJ should not be putting out the lights of a contender with serious aspirations to win heavyweight world title. As for the Rivas the failed test post fight raises a red flag especially as Rivas dropped him heavily and hoping life and death twice with Chisora in my opinion losing the first contest does not bode well.
     
  11. BubblesUK

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    You could well be right, it all depends if Wilder has the space to tee it up - if Whyte has the balls to keep at short range and stay aggressive he probably wins, unlike Povetkin, Wilder can't operate well there...

    In that sense I see it as Whytes to lose, but he would still have to stay on top of his game - relaxing for a moment and letting Wilder have his space could easily be lights out.

    Still, I have to back the more proven fighter, especially if there's an obvious tactical plan that they've been comfortable with in the past (even if he's been more cautious and less effective of late!)
     
  12. Decker

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    Just read p1 and haven't voted yet.

    This is a HIGHLY VARIABLE outcome fight. Anywhere from a Wilder to Whyte KO and I don't mean TKO, although that's very possible. Few think it will go the distance based on comments and voting. I agree.
     
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  13. African Cobra

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    Why would Wilder fear Whyte when he been in with better fighters by far who he knocked out and dropped guys much more talented and better than Whyte.
     
  14. BubblesUK

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    How is it really any different from being outboxed comfortably by an equivalent level fighter on Ortiz?

    The obvious difference being that the rest of Whytes resume is better if you accept that those two cancel out.

    Oh and we're talking about the Povetkin that Wilder ducked, remember...
     
  15. African Cobra

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    What do you think Fury would do to Whyte? Sorry I am not on that hype train.