Deontay Leshun Wilder vs. Tyson Luke Fury II

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Bronze Bomber or Gypsy King?

Poll closed Feb 22, 2020.
  1. Wilder on points

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  2. Wilder by stoppage

    46.1%
  3. Draw

    1.7%
  4. Fury on points

    37.3%
  5. Fury by stoppage

    14.1%
  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Tyler went away. Tyler's gone. Staff Member

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    No further obstacles in the way, now, save possibly injury. The date is already set, venue still to be negotiated.

    WBC title at stake, 11th defense of Wilder.

    Contracts have also been signed for a June bout to complete a trilogy. Should the February and June fights yield opposite results (as in Wilder and Fury each victorious once), a fourth tiebreaker match in late 2020 or early 2021 might be necessitated, but isn't yet contractually bound.
     
  2. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Active Member Full Member

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    Fury on points. He fights to the level of the competition, and nothing between the two has changed. If it goes this way and Fury actually gets the nod this time, I hope they will forego a third Bout.

    In that case, better to have Fury in against the winner of Ruiz/Joshua and Wilder against the loser.
     
  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Tyler went away. Tyler's gone. Staff Member

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    If you're backing Fury, there is some cause for alarm:

    1. The few dozen stitches on his eye required after the Wallin fight.
    2. The way he looked throughout said Wallin fight, considerably depreciated from his form vs. Wilder and Schwarz.
    3. The distraction/golden parachute of having one foot out the door in a lucrative WWE deal (which is probably more attractive to him than boxing, as it carries less risk of being KTFO and is more his idea of fun)
    4. The machine behind Wilder ensuring that he will always be gifted insurance rounds (see the scorecards of shill Larry Hazzard, or the fact that he was cleanly shut out for six rounds by Ortiz yet one judge gave him two rounds; see also the draw in Fury I. :sisi1) in case he doesn't land that big equalizer.
    5. That big equalizer. Getting up from a big shot like that once is a neat trick, but not the sort of lightning you can necessarily bottle twice..

    Fury is left in the horns of a dilemma. Going for a KO doesn't make sense, as he isn't that powerful himself and still has to get past that reach of Wilder's to land big on him...and there's a risk of getting caught and put to sleep with a haymaker. Winning on points requires boxing very carefully over twelve...but even then, it'll be a question of whether the scoring is fair, which is dicey. There's also the pitfall of not being aggressive enough to impress the judges, even if he's doing the superior (but subtler) work.
     
  4. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you can dream it, you can do it Full Member

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    The game plan to defeat Wilder is simple; stay away from his right, jab him silly and survive until the final bell. Yet in 43 fights, nobody has managed it. Fury almost did it in the first bout but Im not sure this time if he goes down he can get up...Wilder has become Wiser after fight I.
     
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  5. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilder catches him earlier and more often this time
     
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  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Tyler went away. Tyler's gone. Staff Member

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    I think Fury can definitely make it twelve if he dances around with his mind set on avoiding the right hand - but that might cost him the fight on points if the judges reward Wilder for coming forward and Fury isn't taking chances or doing anything.
     
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  7. jmb1356

    jmb1356 Member Full Member

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    Fury wins if he doesn’t get tagged with the right hand of Wilder. That’s what the fight comes down to again. Wilder can do one thing and one thing only, it’s Fury who should make the adjustments.

    It might be a good idea to take a cue from Ali and look for a way to make Wilder punch himself out. Power is gone when you’re fatigued.
     
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  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Tyler went away. Tyler's gone. Staff Member

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    We just watched him do literally nothing for 25 minutes before putting everything into that right hand and finishing the fight in a single blow, though. Wilder might be less afraid of Fury than he was Ortiz, but I still think he and his team are (rightfully) wary of getting stranded in deep waters suffering fatigue, and they game plan around that.
     
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  9. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you can dream it, you can do it Full Member

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    In general its true but Wilder is able to load a single winning bomb from the 1st round until the 12th. His motto is maximum result with the minimum effort.
     
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  10. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Wilder controversial decision, he will drop Fury a couple times but I do think Fury will show up in better shape and make it to the final bell.
    And this is FOX PPV right? 1st fight FLOPPED at 325k buys so this is not some 'cash out' fight for Wilder. I do think AJ showdown is still the goal.
     
  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Tyler went away. Tyler's gone. Staff Member

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    Wait, is that a real quote? :lol: I'd believe it.
     
  12. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Didn't see this one..

    Still got Fury UD.. But scorecards* these days.. can never be too confident..

    I think Davison was at the fight last night giving Wilder the once over again..
     
  13. young_wolverine

    young_wolverine New Member Full Member

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    going with Wilder by ko but Fury has the tools to win off points again
     
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  14. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you can dream it, you can do it Full Member

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    Really never heard? Is like to tell more bang for your bucks..
     
  15. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Fury lost one bit of motivation for the sweet science with sol this WWE ****, he’s getting knocked out. Otherwise, gun to my head, I’d probably go with Wilder by a controversial decision.
     


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