Deontay Leshun Wilder vs. Tyson Luke Fury II

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Bronze Bomber or Gypsy King?

Poll closed Feb 22, 2020.
  1. Wilder on points

    0.8%
  2. Wilder by stoppage

    46.1%
  3. Draw

    1.7%
  4. Fury on points

    37.3%
  5. Fury by stoppage

    14.1%
  1. bbjc

    bbjc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Just didnt have the frame to support the extra weight unlike fury. That plus fury was stronger this time round. And wilders been getting these knockouts by his tactics as much as his power. Mostly fought shorter reached guys that need to follow him around the ring. He frustrates them by back peddling. They need to try to make that gap up...its risky because wilders punch will almost always reach them first with being the longer reached fighter...and them needing to bridge the gap on him.

    Fury got away with it cause he had the longer reach. He punched first and reached the target going in...leaving wilder clueless in the end when his tried and tested strategy went out the window. Same happened to klitchko against fury tbf.

    Result of a guy that had big power but rudimental boxing skills meeting up with guys that know what their doing in breland and the other guy. Wilders limited....but he was very nearly unbeatable with their strategy. Took a good man in fury to beat him. Wilders natural timing is terrible....the coaches still actually did do a great job with him regardless tho.

    Wilder will still beat most of them out there. No chance against fury tho. And think joshus would bully him back as well. Naturally too big framed for wilder. Naturally bigger men.
     
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  2. N17

    N17 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think it's about momentum, Fury has real momentum, this win is huge, the manner of victory, the way this is being shown around the world and the reaction is to it is amazement and respect,

    Also Fury is still unbeaten, Hearn and AJ made a huge deal about that when AJ was unbeaten.

    If Hearn is genuine about wanting the fight, he will make Fury a minimum of 50/50 offer.


    The WBC belt, It's the final piece of the jigsaw according to Hearn, he needs to pay accordingly for the opportunity but I don't he will.

    Has to be asked also, will AJ and Hearn actually want a Fury fight? Will they want that Fury turning up? I'm not so sure.
     
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  3. The Clan

    The Clan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Jeeezus!
    How many times does this need to be said!

    WILDER DID NOT HAVE A PERFORATED EARDRUM!

    His own Trainer, Jay Dees has categorically started that Wilders only injury was a small cut to the outside of his ear!
     
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  4. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Prince/Raja/Emir Full Member

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    They def don't want the fight but they have no-one to run at the moment.

    They can't claim people don't want to see it or that Tyson isn't entertaining. They won't be able to say Fury is scared. The public don't care about TV deals. This is the biggest fight in boxing right now and the biggest fight in British boxing history.

    If it's not made Joshua and Hearn better invest in brown paper bags if they want to leave the house.
     
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  5. Kingmaffe

    Kingmaffe Member Full Member

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    Holy feck, was I wrong when i predicted a Wilder stoppage in this fight! I did pick Fury by decision when this fight was first being drummed up, but changed my pick to Wilder based mostly on Fury against Wallin and Fury being much heavier. Really didn’t think it would be wise to approach Wilder head on, but then again, I’m sitting here while Fury is a former unified champ lol.

    I was dead wrong which suits me just fine, since I really hoped Fury would do a number on Wilder. FINALLY the reign of We-Be-Crooks’ poster boy is OVER!
     
  6. N17

    N17 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree, Hearn said "I hope Fury wins, easy fight to make"

    Now we are going to see just how easy. Hearn will be under huge pressure but AJ will be under more.

    AJ can't claim Fury wouldn't fight him, Fury did what AJ wouldn't, went to the US and fought Wilder (twice).

    The British boxing public won't accept "we made Fury an offer but.."


    No excuses, pay Fury the money he is worth and get it done. If they don't, then it's clear they don't really want it.


    But, that said... it does sort of depend if Wilder wants the rematch, personally I don't think that's a good idea, but Shirley Winkle was throwing Wilder straight back in last night, now, fair enough it was straight after the fight, emotions running high but when he goes away and watches it again..

    I want to know what he is seeing that makes him believe Wilder turns that around, it was so one sided that if they cared about Wilder they would go away, let him have some time off and then go again.

    Finkel and Haymon have been milking Wilder, they won't want to let it all go so easily, I have a feeling they will insist Wilder takes the rematch regardless what Wilder actually wants to do.
     
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  7. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Prince/Raja/Emir Full Member

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    They might but it's such a tough sell that they might not. Bute had just as much right to take on Froch and could of had that rematch on home soil but he knew it wouldn't be good for him. If he had truly rebuilt he might have pursued that rematch down the line.

    Finkel and Haymon need to accept the Joshua payday has gone. They can make that fight but they're jot getting guaranteed 80m with a rematch offers ever again. Fury's taken that from them. Haymon could of had a stranglehold on the division if Ruiz and Wilder played their part but both came up short so here we are.
     
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  8. N17

    N17 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah,

    Good point, everybody said a while back "Haymon, Finkel and Hearn need to make AJ Wilder now, before one or both get beat".

    There was huge money on the table, they were both unbeaten, both world champions and between the lot of them.. they absolutely blew it.

    And It feels like that now especially for Finkel and Haymon, firstly because AJ is in Saudi earning 10's of millions and secondly and most importantly they have to get Wilder to beat Fury in a rematch to get back to square one.



    AJ got away with it, Ruiz blew it and ate his way to a first defence, but some of the shine has come off AJ now in my opinion.

    I honestly think this is the first time Fury really does hold the power, he calls the shots but Hearn and especially AJ are not going to accept it.
     
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  9. N17

    N17 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Please don't marry my mother :eek:
     
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  10. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury was not 50% this fight, that's why Wilder got dominated.
     
  11. MannyMMA

    MannyMMA Golovkin 9-3 or 8-4 Full Member

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    Are we to pretend it busted on its own?
     
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  13. mark ant

    mark ant Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lacy didn`t get hit with that kind of power.
     
  14. mark ant

    mark ant Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He was 50% bigger!
     
  15. mark ant

    mark ant Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    David Haye who was commentating for UK TV stubbed his big toe in the ear when he kicked Wilder on the way to the ring, watch in slow-mo!
     


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