Deontay Leshun Wilder vs. Tyson Luke Fury II

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Bronze Bomber or Gypsy King?

Poll closed Feb 22, 2020.
  1. Wilder on points

    0.8%
  2. Wilder by stoppage

    46.1%
  3. Draw

    1.7%
  4. Fury on points

    37.3%
  5. Fury by stoppage

    14.1%
  1. highlander

    highlander Active Member Full Member

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    yes,that is true he is great boxer. two things though. the sparring DOES keep and sharpen the reflexes. and running does help with keeping a fighter's legs limber. other forms of cardio are great, swimming, bicycling etc.... but running does involve all the body while taking some punishment.
     
  2. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As I noted above, there are a number of recent videos on Youtube showing fury looking very good. This could be a photoshop, a bad angle, whatever.

    In any event, he defiantly had more muscle, and I wouldn't be concerned about a bit of a belly (like normal) as long as its not all belly weight.
     
  3. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree with everything, but if he can't do it, he can't do it. The bottom line to me is that whatever he is doing, the youtube videos out there seem to be presenting him in above average (for fury) shape with some increased musculature.
     
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  4. highlander

    highlander Active Member Full Member

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    should be interesting tonight!
     
  5. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think Fury wins inside schedule.
    I see it a bit different to many other posts I have read where people say the longer it goes the more it favours Wilder, but I actually disagree and think it tips more in Furys favour the longer it goes.
    When Fury takes a big shot his punch resistance seems to suddenly get better. If Wilder catches him cold and early it may effect Fury but with Fury he seems to take shots better after taking a big shot. I know people will point to the previous fight and the 12th round but how many other times did Wilder catch Fury really clean before that? When Fury got up he took arguably the biggest shot of the fight completely flush and didnt even stagger. He then went on the attack.
    Fury seems to have good stamina and with some of Wilders fights where he has been over 225lbs, his fights have gone into the later rounds like Molina, Duhaupas, Arreola, Szpilka. Fury is alot bigger and heavier than those fighters and with a bigger reach
     
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  6. Kingmaffe

    Kingmaffe Active Member Full Member

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    His weight it far too high imo. Fury won’t be able to move around as much, and will be an easier target to find for Wilder’s nuclear right hand. Wilder will be heavier and slower as well, but won’t suffer for it because of how heavy Fury is.

    I’m really pulling for Fury and this won’t be used as an excuse if he loses. It’s Fury’s responsibility to keep himself in good shape and be at his ideal weight. If he feels 273 is ideal then so be it. Looks like he will be gunning for at stoppage. I disagree and my gut feeling is this will be Wilder’s night.
     
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  7. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I think he should have come in light like AJ did in the ruiz rematch so he can be light and quick ready to stick and move all night.
     
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  8. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Wilder has an iron chin!!! Not trying to take away from Fury after all he pulled himself up twice in the first match but this time he is in REAL TROUBLE
    I like both fighters as their styles make for an entertaining fight so no matter the outcome I’ll be happy
     
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  9. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    We have to remember Fury has a new trainer, new team, so either it's by design and they believe more weight equals more power.. which isn't the case.. Or those ankle injury stories were true and he couldn't run, skip or stuff like that.

    If by design, I will assume Fury plans to tie Wilder up, lean on, wrestle and try and draw the energy out of Wilder.

    It may work, depends on a couple of things, firstly Wilder and most importantly the referee.

    If I'm Team Wilder, I'm getting in that referee's earhole in the changing room, really laying it on him about holding and leaning on, make the case for a CLEAN CONTEST.

    Also if Wilder is grabbed and tied up he needs to smash relentlessly at Fury kidneys and ribs, also rabbit punch, all sorts of nasty horrible stuff until the referee tells him not to, or has words with both about the holding/leaning and the rabbit punches, but just keep smashing and smashing and make Fury pay some kind of cost for the leaning on.

    I just can't see Fury up on those toes and dancing for 8 rounds at that weight, I'm very confident Wilder inside 6 now though.
     
  10. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Yep now he’s a sitting enormous DUCK for that right hand
    Booooooooomb SQUAD:ibutt:ibutt
     
  11. Chuck Norris

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    Well we will find out in a few hours buddy!
     
  12. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    First of all, recent Youtube videos seem to show him in tremendous shape. I know there is the pic out there of his belly, but I think he is going to be ready.

    I love guy. I know he is, and know that he is far from perfect. But at the end of the day, the Klitschko and first Wilder fight showed that he is a man who does what he says that he is going to do. And I have followed him from the begging, since the days of fighting Marcel Zeller, and the like.

    I admire this man because he is a survivor. He has beaten poverty, beaten drug addiction, beaten obesity, beaten depression, beaten the odds, and won when the entire world was against him. Even I didn't think he was going to beat Klit. He never listens to the detractors.

    Maybe some of you don't know how he got his name. He was born premature, and the doctors told his father that he had no chance. His father looked at them, and told them that he was going to name his boy Tyson, after the champ, and that his son would make it and grow up to be the champ. Sometimes I think of that when I hold my own daughter in my arms--the pain that they went through together.

    Should Fury lose, it will not be the end of my admiration for the guy. He will pick himself up and go back to the drawing board. With or without boxing, I just want the guy to be all right.

    And that's all I have to say. War Fury!
     
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  13. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    To jab and grab, Fury will need to shuffle those feet forward behind the jab, the jab won't be a problem, Fury has a very good left hand, but moving that weight quickly will be after a few rounds.

    If Furys feet are slow, and he doesn't move quickly enough then there is a real chance Wilder can create a few inches of space and Fury walks on to one.
     
  14. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    That's all I care about when it comes to Fury too. I just want to know he's doing well no matter what he's doing. As much as I would love to see him winning tonight and hope for the love of God he proves me wrong, I sadly can't see it happening. I think he came heavier in the rematch because he knows the cut will reopen in the long run. So he's either going to blow Wilder away early or get blown away.
     
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  15. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Fury can fight on the inside so i don't see him gab n grabbing. He'd actually be better off trying to hit Wilder with something heavy while he has the inside ground rather than tieing him up. If Fury can stun lock Wilder he might be able to finish him off