Deontay Leshun Wilder vs. Tyson Luke Fury

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IntentionalButt, Nov 27, 2018.


Bronze Bomber or Gypsy King?

Poll closed Dec 1, 2018.
  1. Wilder on points

    4.5%
  2. Wilder by stoppage

    42.9%
  3. Draw

    1.3%
  4. Fury on points

    31.2%
  5. Fury by stoppage

    20.1%
  1. cfckieran

    cfckieran Member Full Member

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    I'm going with Fury on points. Wilder has got too emotional in the last few days... way too angry and it will play in to Fury's hands. You can bet Fury will be tormenting him both physically and verbally in the ring. So yeah Fury on points by 7 rounds or more
     
  2. silencio

    silencio Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I honestly have no clue. Fury (from the Wlad fight) has the skills to box circles around Wilder and win comfortably on points. Wilder on the other hand has the punch, coupled with speed and accuracy, to easily KO Fury (Fury from the Cunningham fight). It's really whoever gets his way. AJ beats them both though...:cool:
     
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  3. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    I thought Wilder would KO Fury back when they had the confrontation in Brooklyn and nothing has changed since
     
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  4. GK BOX

    GK BOX Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Surprised that fury is winning this poll
     
  5. twopiece

    twopiece Pugilistic Ambassador Full Member

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    Can definitely envision Fury trying to "crowd" Wilder in an attempt to smother any chances of him landing his best shots. I just think this is a fight where Wilder's gonna have to show us all something new (if he hopes to win). Fury already believes he's got Deontay completely neutralized.

    If I had to pick a favorite, then my 60-40 lean towards Fury would send it over to him. Make no mistake about it though -- that 40% chance (for a Wilder victory) is still significant. This will be an interesting fight... and it has the potential to also be an ugly one.
     
  6. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Nice post Robney.

    I was being halfway sarcastic with my post (I know I didnt make it seem like it) it was more a post echoing how low regard people hold wilder in...

    I actually do think Wilder can box a bit, I think his power is everything he will ever need it to be, and I think he can win this fight by decision by dictating the distance and action in there, not just by knockout.

    But tomorrow we will see.
     
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  7. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't agree that Fury smothering Wilder is a sound strategy. Wilder is a horrible inside fighter because he can't change levels; that's why he has looked bad against inferior, shorter opponents. But Fury doesn't pose any need for him to change levels and doesn't have particularly great reflexes.

    Against taller opponents, Wilder's problem is footwork. Gerald Washington had him hopping backward with every feint the first couple rounds, because Wilder can't respond in kind. If you think Joshua would annihilate Wilder without much difficulty, this is the best fight to support that point of view. Wilder is an intelligent stalker/puncher, but if you pressure him with your feet he has issues.

    Can Fury do that for 12 rounds? I can see it, especially if he also jabs effectively. On the other hand, I could see Wilder timing him and taking more risks than he would against a Joshua-level puncher, potentially landing a bomb.

    But Fury leaning on Wilder would be stupid. Though Wilder has poor footwork, he can step away and throw from awkward angles. Ortiz thought he had him figured out, but it was a cuffing right from an awkward posture that was the beginning of the end for him. Fury should jab and feint, not smother.
     
  8. trololopunch

    trololopunch New Member Full Member

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    Fury by mid/late TKO, but IDKSAB and I'm not a fan of any boxers, I don't care who wins, I just like watching boxing.

    Fury will bait Wilder into throwing more and more of his trademark reckless power punches by not punishing Wilder for his misses. Wilder will think he can get away with it and will even land some hard punches, looking for the ko, but Fury will take the sting out of them or clinch when hurt. When Wilder is set into this pattern of nothing bad happening after a reckless miss and Fury start to tire, Fury will suddenly switch to punishing Wilder for his misses when he is horribly out of position, by countering or rushing and mauling him, and drop him.

    I believe Fury can do this because he demonstrated the ability to exploit the flaws of a world class opponent by using his habits against him (vs Wlad) and willingness to change style mid fight (vs Cunningham). The only question mark is his stamina and reflexes after years of abuse/layoff, that's why he has to end it and not go 12. He can't move around and avoid Wilder punches for 12 rounds, he will tire and get caught.
    I believe Wilder can fall into this trap because he is supremely confident in his power and ability to end a fight with one punch at anytime. His only objective is to ko his opponent, but he can be patient in the early rounds if he has to. Fury will make him believe he can go for it and not risk anything in return, and Wilder will not be ready when the sudden unexpected retaliation comes.
     
  9. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    OK. I didn't think I was that burnt.

    :smoking:
     
  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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