Deontay Wilder all time heavyweight ranking were does he stand?

For Christ's sake, you guys nitpick the hell out of this.

Wilder's opponents throughout his title run and afterward are no worse than anyone else's from the era. Period.

Robert Helenius knocked out Sam Peter, Lamon Brewster, Sergei Liakhovich, Adam Kownacki (twice), beat Derek Chisora (with one arm) and Erkan Teper. Johann Duhaupas knocked out Robert Helenius and beat Manuel Charr. Gerald Washington knocked out Robert Helenius, Jerry Forrest, Ray Austin and beat Eddie Chambers. Luis Ortiz knocked out Bryant Jennings, Charles Martin, Tony Thompson, Monte Barrett. Artur Szpilka beat Jameel McCline, Tomasz Adamek, Mariusz Wach, Dominick Guinn and Owen Beck. Arreola was a three-time title challenger who wiped out Chazz Witherspoon, Jameel McCline, Eric Molina, and ruined Seth Mitchell. Tyson Fury beat Derek Chisora (three times), Wilder (twice), Dillian Whyte, Wladimir Klitschko, Otto Wallin and Christian Hammer. Probably the worst of them, Eric Molina, knocked out Tomasz Adamek in Poland, no less, and Joshua turned around and gave him a title shot, too.

You can go through Povetkin, Rahman, Vitali, Wlad, Joshua, Fury, Usyk, whomever, on and on, they all fought the same collection/level of guys. Hell, even someone like Malik Scott beat Alex Leapai, Tony Thornton and drew with Czar Glazkov, who the IBF stripped Fury in favor of. They all fought the same collections of guys. All of them.

You can pick apart every fighter on everyone's list the same way you pick apart the guys on Wilder's, you just NEVER do.

Wilder went 11-4-1 against WBC, WBA, IBF and WBO ranked fighters in title fights and after losing the belt.

It's a fine record. He engaged in 13 CONSECUTIVE title fights (a lot of title fights by any measure). He was outweighed in all of them. He went 10-2-1 in title fights.

Nobody picks the NOSEHAIRS out of fighters' opponents like some of you guys do with Wilder.

You've been doing for years. IT IS INSANE.

Get over it. He was a wildly successful champion, despite the fact that you hated him and rooted against him the whole time. He was a dominant champ for five years.

Rate him accordingly.

 

That's generous...

He might've been number 4, but he didn't prove it... His resume isn't 4th best of the post Wlad era (and that's even if we're generous and counting Pov as Wlads era instead of this one).

 

Name 50 champions at heavyweight who were outweighed by everyone they fought for 12 straight years?

Name 50 champions at heavyweight who started 40-0? (Because nobody currently active is going to get remotely close to that.)

Name 50 champions at heavyweight who reigned for five uninterrupted years in a row?

Name 50 champions at heavyweight who put together 10 consecutive successful heavyweight title defenses?

Name 50 champions at heavyweight who were ranked among the top 3 Ring contenders every month uninterrupted for eight straight years (January 2015 to December 2023). Never missed a month.

Name 50 champions at heavyweight who faced an undefeated Ring champ in a title defense (floored him twice) and successfully defended against him?

Name 50 champions at heavyweight who competed in 13 heavyweight title fights in A ROW?

Clue: MICHAEL DOKES isn't one of the answers.

Rate him according to his accomplishments, instead of dismissing what he actually accomplished (which was wildly impressive) and tossing him in the bin.

 

Yeah did you?

 

We've done this before.

 

Byrd resume:

Vitali Klitschko
David Tua
Jameel McCline

Wilder resume:

Luis Ortiz 38 yo and 40yo
Stiverne 39yo and 40yo iirc

Enough of the trolling

 

It's the career trajectory up to that point isn't it. Had either of them beaten Rahman in place of Povetkin he would have been their best victory by far.

 

I know you’re just a young guy scrolling boxrec, but Byrd was shot and lightly regarded when Povetkin beat him. Eddie Chambers was regarded as a decent win.

Glad I could help you out, buddy.

 

If you have seen it, I’m led to believe that you went into a little sociopathic* fit due to feelings of being undermined because it’s pointless to claim that a Rahman who was considerably worse than Adam Kownacki was above Tay’s level.

*you’ve claimed to have sociopathic traits

 

Stiverne was 36 and at his peak for the first Wilder fight.

Ortiz was 38 and 39 for Wilder. He didn’t fade significantly until the Charles Martin fight. His legs weren’t quite the same for the rematch, but that might be owed to the first Wilder fight. Wilder also appeared to be a little past his best for the rematch.

 

Speaking of sociopathic, you need to take emotions out of this.

Like I said Povetkin has 4 times beaten fighters at or above Wilders level.

You haven't undermined anyone, you just haven't undertsood boxing that's all mate.

 

Go ahead and explain how shot fighters who failed to put together significant title reigns at their best are ahead of Wilder.

 

It’s called DDS (Deontay Derangement Syndrome).

 

You literally proved the point I was making and don't even realize it..........................

 

Probably.

Indulge me though...

Which of Usyk, Joshua, Fury, Parker, Povetkin, (maybe even Whyte) are you ranking below him?

You know I weight fairly strongly along resume lines, so I'd find it difficult to pick any of them... But if you're going for 4th, only three can be above...

Humour me, this once?