Deontay Wilder and Alexander Povetkin are in talks for May in NY

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  1. Odo

    Odo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Povetkin vs Wilder wont come off,and if their fight comes off it wont take place in the USA as there is no money to be earnt over there.
    Wilder is totally unknown outside the states and generates no world wide money,and I very much doubt that the US channels do spend as much money on Wilder as does Povetkin's russian sponsor and promoter on him.Povetkin's backer has deep pockets.
    Wilder? Just a no-name product from some American hamlet-hardly marketable outside his local ghetto.
    Anyway! I dont think that Wilder vs Povetkin will ever take place.
    Wilder knows his limitations-he struggled with Szikpka,with Molina,with Duhaupas,was knocked out and schooled by Romanov,and so on.
    He cant hold a candle to Povetkin,and he and his promoter are not totally dumb.They know that Povetkin will wipe the floor with Wilder.
    Wilder will target easy targets like Martin,like Jennings,and so on.
    Povetkin is just too capable and too dangerous for Wilder.
    He probably prefers a rematch with Molina or Duhaupas than ever facing Povetkin inside a ring:D:D
     
  2. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Great post.

    Wilder is US based fraud, relying on US national pride and jingoism to make money for the corrupt WBC
     
  3. turnip

    turnip Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why didn't he wipe the floor with Huck?
     
  4. Odo

    Odo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Povetkin still won his fight with Huck IMO.He connected with the far more telling punches in their encounter.However,I wouldnt argue the toss with somone who had it a draw or even had Huck slightly ahead on points after 12 close rounds.
    Povetkin was totally out of puff after 3-4 rounds .His pathetic stamina almost lost him that fight.He and his coach could be blamed for the poor conditioning and bad preparation.
    I ve forgotten who his coach was at that time but I guess Povetkin must blame himself for that close fight then.He was the better fighter but Huck was far better prepared for their encounter as he was trained then by that grumpy German dictator Wegner who is known for his iron hand and whip inside a training camp.
    It was a very bad day for Povetkin indeed! He also showed a poor performance against Firtha,but he was injured so that he can be excused.That wasnt the case against Huck.
     
  5. MaliBua

    MaliBua Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Credit for Deontay finally stepping up. Well Stiverne was seen as a step up in comp at time.

    This is nice clash of styles if it's really and finally for heaven sakes getting made.
     
  6. ki_ote

    ki_ote Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Agree with everything except the scoring comments.
    I watched the Szpilka fight and the judges were right on the money.
    Arturo bobbed and weaved nicely, but Wilder started landing more and more hard rights, and gaining control of the fight as it went on.

    That's normally what happens if you have some skills, whether people want to admit it or not. It was ugly, stylistically, though.
     
  7. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The subtext of this is interesting.

    The Russians don't seem to be willing to sink $15-20 million to buy the fight (with 70 percent going to Wilder) on a purse bid. Hence their stance that they're willing to come to the US to fight Wilder.

    The big-money backer blew $23M or so in bringing the Klitschko fight to Russia and got ZERO return on investment -- merely dropped it into Wlad's pockets and watched him walk away with it.

    They'll never come even close to breaking even after dropping that much money on trying to "buy" the title by having it on home turf.

    To bid $15-plus million to get Wilder there wouldn't make sense. Their guy has only a few more years even if he wins, and he'd never create that kind of revenue to recoup the investment.

    Keep in mind, Povetkin is 36 years old.

    I don't doubt that they think their guy can win -- but why throw away money to have it at home when they feel he can win no matter where it takes place? If it doesn't go to purse bids, their guy isn't locked into only getting 30 percent, so they can probably do better with no risk that if they lose they've essentially thrown $40-plus million into a guy who hasn't yet proven he can generate any major purses, and who only has a few years to do so even if he wins.

    If he beats Wilder in Brooklyn, he can take the title home for an easy defense (probably against Wawrzyk, who he defended against previously) and then bid the big money to try to get a Tyson Fury fight in Russia with their guy as a proven commodity.

    People who have a lot of money don't usually just throw it around freely -- they didn't get rich throwing $$$ away. The wiser course would be to not let it go to purse bids so they can:

    1) Get a higher percentage of the purse for their guy by allowing it to happen in the US

    2) See if their guy wins without major risk

    If he wins, they're in business. If he loses, they've saved major millions and they can move on to promoting the next guy.
     
  8. baldbull

    baldbull Active Member Full Member

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    Talk is cheap. I will be shocked if these 2 ever make it in the ring together. I can see wilder sustaining an injury to that right hand in training.