if deontay beats dillian his stocks go up so why you scared deontary? what you gotta stay about that deontay (tyson fury voice)?
A moneyline becoming a cultureline is exactly how the colorline started. England should be ashamed. The rest of the UK is alright, but you get a Englishman holding power in the HW division his ***** ass will draw a moneyline everytime. That alone isn't a big deal, it's kind of their culture and ****....I mean yeah America gets the blame for being money-centric, but she don't make up accents to pretend like we're rich. If you try that in the US we'll just laugh at you. England exalts the rich more than any state on the planet. They're very into money, so I give them a pass on moneyline. Moneyline alone doesn't make you a ***** it just makes you English. However, when moneyline goes to cultureline. When the script changes from "You must bring X coin" to " You must act correct" it is a clear sign. (A.) He's shook (B.) He has an issue with losing to this particular type. To my knowledge it was first used against Mendoza himself when Mendoza challenged Humphries, it was definitely used again against Mollineaux when Mollineaux whooped Cribb. It was used multiple times against Deaf Burke at the hands of Jem Ward. Jem Ward, if you've read my posts on him before, is quite possibly England's most shameful champion. The problem with Mendoza was he's a Jew. The problem with Tom was he's an American, most report it being his race but I honestly don't see it. Yes they called him a moor but it reads like a point of fact not hate, when they speak on his nationality that's where you find their hate. Burke was too stupid. Seriously, he was an embarrassment to a lot of people. It's sad because Burke was very good...England should have been proud of him. Much more so than Ward who never did anything and won his title by a fixed fight against a man Burke killed in the ring. That's three examples, the big three, if you need more for the point to stick I'll be happy to oblige. When does American boxing kick off? 'Round the 1840s init? What's going on in England, the boxing hegemony? Ward is busying doing his **** where he tells the world Burke can't be champion until Burke beats Jem but Jem won't fight him unless he brings enough coin. Burke gets said coin by getting a job, and Ward says Burke has to fight the right men. Burke does that and Jem still won't fight him saying it'd be unfair to Burke because Burke is deaf and dumb. It's not until five or so ducks that Burke is awarded his championship. Alright, whatever, what's that got to do with colorline? Well, America is more racist and less xenophobic. The English had been using money and culture to keep the wrong man from the title, and America was following England's lead still. We hardly had a boxing scene yet and to say American boxing had its own culture is to legitimize Rough and Tumble as something similar to on par with LPRR culturally and professionally. No. Just after Ward-Burke England goes through a series of weak champions. Well, not weak they were competitive. Anyway the point is they weren't big deals for very long. The next big deal is actually in the states when Hyer defeated Sullivan for the US title. This fight was made important because Xenophobia was all the rage in boxing and Sullivan, an Irishman, trained and seconded for another European who killed an American in the ring and fled the states, boxing being illegal then, to not stand trial for murder. Hyer became a hero on the back of English inspired xenophobia and America's first champion America herself recognized on any serious level. What comes next is the crux of it all. Daniel Knox. Excellent black fighter who can not get a shot at Hyer who would be seen as champ from 1841 to 1851. Daniel was frozen out because Dan didn't have the funds. The English moneyline had made its way across the pond. So, at first, the Americans do something very similar. They don't say blatantly the colors will not mix, they just rely on an English sense of pairing. England seeing a white american and black american as just a couple of yanks didn't really get what America was going for and America didn't really understand what the English were doing. So you had much more race mixing in England than America which gave America a little more motivation to push the issue of control. The racists took England's rather clever tactic of blaming something outside of a boxer's control for the reasoning to not fight, but dumbed it up by being blatantly racist about it. We can go through the characters if y'all like but this is getting long so I'll say it like this. Hyer-Ryan all the others like Coburn simply stayed away from the admittedly small black ranks. They didn't fight blacks on their way up, they weren't challenged by many, for most of them it just wasn't much of an issue and they didn't have to issue specifics about specific men. You'll not find a story about Elliot ducking a black man because there wasn't any issuing challenges being taken seriously, which is to say their community had yet to build itself to a worthy community in the eyes of even the boxing purists. It's not until John L that you get the specific edict " I shall not fight black men" which only came because of the growing artistry of the black boxing community. To clarify, they didn't grow in numbers like some kind of weed, they grew in respect because they had been practicing Queensberry-like rules since Knox's time around fifty years prior to John and it showed in men like Godfrey and Hadley who were celebrated for their talent rather than toughness as John is. So the pressure came from the pure boxing community for John to prove his toughness and power outweighs their science to which we all know John's reply. It took the black boxing community about fifty years to get the white boxing community to admit it's got nothing to do with lack of funds because the blacks had backers for a title fight. It had nothing to do with a lack of culture because Godfrey was one of the most well respected men in Boston. It had solely to do with the color of his skin. In america telling black men they need to earn X or be Y to be seen and accounted for is racist, it is the history of racism. Before there was a colorline in sports there was the pairing of money and culture. Before slavery turned into a black-centric chattle industry money and culture dictated who had worth. Before the right to vote came the cost and exam to vote. It is the history of how you keep a black man down in America. Oh it ain't racism...it's this other thing outside of your control....sure...I ain't read that book, ain't seen that play, not watched that movie, and never reviewed that remake; I don't know that script, her plot, her characters, her devices, or her motivations....sure....y'all racist ****s. Don't get me twisted, this is not the racism thread I had spoken about. This is just a section. It just seemed timing wise I should say something on the matter now. I'll write that thread when I have the hour or so to write it. If this is a section you can imagine the full length of material I've to sort to tell this tale.
I saw Whyte KO Brown. Wilder might lose if he picks him as a title opponent. Whyte is a top ten guy, who isn't old.
Wilder is starting to remind me of this classic Office scene where Michael 'declares' bankruptcy. This content is protected I know a bit of trash talk early on can help put you on a fighter's radar, but I think it's about time someone had that talk with Wilder... "Hey, I just wanted you to know that you can't just say the words 'Anthony Joshua' and expect anything to happen. That's not anything.."