Deontay Wilder: "Anthony Joshua is David Price in the making"

If that's true I'd give him a pass for it. But when the hell are they going to fight? Stiverne been the (massively undeserving) mandatory for about 6 months now. Wilder used to fight more regularly, if he's going to fight this bum he needs to get it out of the way so it won't get in the way of bigger fights

 

He has time before he takes his mandatory. That's why he wanted Joshua. I knock Joshua because of his fanatical fans, but I don't want him to make Hearn money by fighting only Hearn guys. I want him or Wilder to become great. Lennox defended against anyone and everyone of note and he has respect of the entire boxing world. That's what I want for either man. To become great!

 

I definitely agree with that! I want either one to become a real dominant ATG.

We just disagree about what the best way to make that happen would be. I'd rather they both build up their resume and work toward fighting each other.

 

Wilder is David Price in the making..........................

 

I have no sympathy for this argument. Stiverne has been his mandatory since February yet nothing seems to have been done about it, and Wilder's been most vocal in the media about seeking unification bouts against Parker or Joshua.

As WBC Champion has he a duty to defend that belt at least once a year against their mandatory regardless of whether he or the rest of the world think the mandatory's a worthy contender or not, and if he fails to do that then he's not fulfilling his obligations and shouldn't be Champion.

If he'll be stripped for fighting anyone other than Stiverne then he should fight Stiverne and get it over and done with so he can move on to other and bigger things or else give up the belt if he really has no interest in that fight.

 

When you find out the rules of the WBC you left me know because saying that you have no sympathy for this argument seems not stupid but rather ghoulish.

 

What? Saying I have no sympathy for a champion trying not to fight his mandatory is "ghoulish"? What planet are you on?

WBC Rules and Regulations: http://wbcboxing.com/wbceng/Rules/WBCRulesandRegulationsJanuary2014.pdf

Timing of Defenses. The WBC’s policy is to offer opportunities to boxers to compete for its titles, and thus the WBC seeks to prevent titles from being frozen due to inactivity by champions. Therefore, a WBC champion should
strive to defend the title in mandatory or voluntary defenses at least three (3) times a year, unless a written exception or extension is granted by the WBC in its sole discretion. Therefore, a WBC champion should strive to
defend his title at least every one hundred twenty (120) days unless otherwise permitted by the WBC in its sole discretion. Upon winning a title, a WBC champion must defend the title within 90 to 120 days or as otherwise or
dered by the WBC, unless otherwise ordered or permitted by the WBC in its sole discretion

Mandatory Defense Obligations. All WBC champions shall make at least one (1) mandatory defense per year, unless an exception is granted by the WBC in its sole discretion. A champion may be required to
make more than one mandatory defense per year, if the WBC has designated more than one
mandatory challenger for any reason. No bout shall be considered a mandatory defense unless expressly approved as mandatory by the WBC, and made exclusively against an official mandatory challenger designated by the WBC. A challenger who wins the title shall automatically inherit the mandatory defense obligations of the champion he defeated, unless the WBC in its sole discretion otherwise directs. ​

That's the WBC requiring their Champions to have at least three defences a year and to fight at least one mandatory challenger per year.

I was on Vitali case about this in 2013 and 2005, and Lewis's in 2003, and I'll continue to be on Wilder case about it until he fights his madatory or relinquishes the belt. A Champion does not get to ignore his mandatories.

 

So what's your point? If he hasn't fought a mandatory as you say he hasn't then why hasn't he been stripped? Why? ****en dumb. I'm getting tired of answering these ****en neanderthal posts. Try thinking next time before you copy and paste moron.

 

Look, I am I no way knocking Wilder as fighter or a person. I am just commenting on the WBC rules and regulations. If you dont like them then that's your problem not mine and there's no point throwing abuse at me.

Wilder hasn't been stripped because he's currently within the rules of the WBC. He's fought once this year, there's still 5 or so months left to fight twice more and he still has the chance to fight his mandatory in that time. If he does this then I will recognize he has done it and respect him for it.

I have no sympathy however for trying to say he doesn't want to fight his mandatory but wont fight anyone else other than Joshua because he's afraid of being stripped of the WBC title if he did. As WBC Champion he is bound by their rules and that means fighting his mandatory regardless of who that is and whether he wants to or not.

 

What do you mean "if I don't like the rules"? What would make you even say that? You had to look up the rules where as I know the rule of time and defenses. Wilder didn't violate any rules at all with the WBC. That's not even my point or anything that I wouldn't like lmao.

And when you say "no sympathy", sympathy for what exactly? Wilder already beat Stiverne and doesn't want to fight him again, but he knows he has to. Wilder wanted to get a unification fight with Joshua or Parker. That's what he's trying to do now before he has to make his mandatory defense. Wilder would've been immediately stripped if he fought Whyte. Do you understand that? And fighters don't always make 3 title defenses in a year with the WBC.

And if Wilder can't fight Joshua or Parker who have trinkets then he can't fight anyone else or he will be stripped. You don't even make sense.

 

You said "When you find out the rules of the WBC you left me know" I gave the link and quoted those passages because of that. I didn't have to look them up because I already knew them having read them before. You seemed to be having a go at me just because I referenced the rules of the organization.

When I say sympathy I mean I am not inclinded to support any champion avoiding or putting off a mandatory defence for any reason. A mandatory defence should take priority over anything else unless there is solid proof that a unification fight will be made.

Wilder had no realistic prospect of getting a unification fight this year - with Parker being tied up with other fighters and Joshua busy with Wlad and both laying the ground work for their own unification fight next year - and if he had just accepted the mandatory when it was announced instead of putting it off he could have beaten Stiverne by now and be free to do whatever he wants.

As it stands, however, there has been no news about Stiverne's mandatory shot since February despite Parker having since finalized his fight with Fury and Joshua's camp committing to either a rematch with Wlad or his own IBF mandatory defence - and yes, in this instance, I think Pulev should get priority as well - so if he "knows he has to" fight Stiverne again then he better get to it and start working out the details, because he's in limbo until he does and the bigger fights are not going to just fall into his lap.

 

This is a good post, although expect Blizzy to throw his toys out of the pram. The guy can't deal with logic.

 

Deonkey knows a glass chin when he sees one. Shaves it every morning.

 

You just basically repeated yourself lol... Wilder is trying to get a unification fight. If he doesn't get one he will fight Stiverne. But I'm glad that you got it right. A unification overtakes a mandatory. And I notice you said, "and yes, in this instance, I think Pulev should get priority as well". Should? He IS the mandatory, but do you know what that statement by you tells me? It tells me that even YOU don't think that Pulev deserves his mandatory status lol. Don't worry I don't think that Stiverne deserves his either.

Both are ****en bums who have fought no one since losing to Wlad and Wilder to deserve their mandatory status. And a reminder just in case that you forgot, Joshua is not...I repeat NOT the HVW champion of the world. Neither is Parker or Wilder. Don't you think that it's about time that the baddest men on the planet unify the most coveted title in sports? DON'T YOU! Lol...

 

Seconded.