Deontay Wilder: "Anthony Joshua is David Price in the making"

That's my whole point, ******. You literally just acknowledged I'm right. They've beaten absolutely no one.

Now you're telling me Charles Martin is an impressive win. That's great.

Martin HAS NO GOOD WINS.

By your own words: "if a fighter is 12-0 and not fought anyone then it wont mean much."

It's mind boggling that there are people who put so much stock in being undefeated even when it means having absolutely zero decent wins at all. To a simpleton like you, a resume full of wins over absolute nobodies is actually meaningful. Even more meaningful than winning rounds against decent opposition, even if it results in a loss.

I don't even understand why you knock Wilder. He faced endless tomato cans for the first 5 years or so, you should be all over his dick because of that colossal win streak.

You probably can't understand why people gave Haye **** for fighting Gjergjaj. "Gjergjaj is undefeated! That's amazing!"

And Martin didn't even ****ing touch Glazkov. Martin did not deserve that win.

You've set up such ******ed conditions. To your mind, wins are only good if the guy is undefeated and a title holder? So beating the "defeated" Wlad must mean nothing. Beating Charles Martin and Whyte is clearly more impressive than beating Wlad because they were undefeated title holders of belts that were either ****ing worthless or undeserved.

Let's go through an example:
Fred Latham
Undefeated.
WBC United States (USNBC) Heavyweight Title holder.

Ever heard of him? I hope so, because apparently your logic is that he's better than the defeated and title-less Povetkin.

Your points so far have been:
1. Having a zero guarantees you're really good. (******ed. You yourself even admit this isn't true.)
2. Charles Martin is a huge win. (Also ******ed.)
3. Lucky hits don't exist (Still ******ed.)
4. The only meaningful criteria in judging a fighter is whether they're undefeated and whether they have a title. (So ******ed.)

Finally. My diagnosis: You're ******ed.

But want to talk about ducking? Answer this:

Do you believe Fred Latham is better than Povetkin? No?
Why?
He's an undefeated title holder, unlike Povetkin.
If you can admit that there are more important things than zeroes and titles, then maybe you can start to understand why I'm right and you're an idiot.

 

Deontay speaks the words of the gospel. Deontay knows that Joshua is a manufactured chump. Deontay stopped a fighter in 1 round, that the mythical monster Luis Ortiz failed to do.

 

Talking about one boxer's shortcomings and mismanagement and applying it to another is entirely meaningless...

 

Price would beat most if not all of Joshuas resume. Maybe Whyte would stop him but not a gimme and Price could also get the KO. I know Price is a laughing stock but Joshuas resume is weak.

 

What you say may well be true, however we don't know if the journalists are asking questions concerning Joshua all of the time and he gives his honest answer and then it comes across as if he is overly preoccupied with him

 

While I think Joshua is a completely coddled and overprotected Glass Jawed Fraud up to this point you have to respect him for taking on even a 40 year old Klitschko who is much more dangerous than anyone Wilder has dreamed of fighting. Joshua is about to fight in front of 90,000 people make an eight figure payday and try to unify belts against an ATG while Wilder is fighting in Alabama against a failed football player in front of maybe 8,000 people. Way to go Deontay. What a fighting champion you are.

 

Bit of a long post to try and decide if Joshua has any better wins than Wilder but just for you and your lack of knowledge, I will break it down so even you can understand

The argument isnt even about who they have beaten but if they are better. Well look at this.

Breazeale beast Mansour inside the distance who Washington, Wilders next opponent only drew with.
Thats your debate over there. Right there you are stuck

Once again, you are looking for an angle because you are pwned and I wrote that Martin was an undefeated title holder and a puncher and that Wilder hasnt faced either.
Thats you stuck again

But didnt have any losses compared to all of the fighters Wilder has fought in world title fights

No disagreement about that statement. I made it

Wrong again. I rate Wilder and think he is a decent top HW. No he hasnt fought top names but with a long streak of wins has a reasonable resume if not great. So you dont rate Wilder at all? Seems like you are getting yourself all tied up. Guess thats what you call a simpleton

See above. This is you looking for an angle

I notice you duck the questions I pose, which is a sign of someone beaten in a debate.
What do you think the difference is in level with Haye beating Gjergjaj or Wilder beating Szpilka?
Bet you duck that as well.
You see what you miss is that, if Wilder had of blasted through Duhaupas, Duhaupas wouldnt be as highly thought of as he is now.
I got a bit bored from here as it was a long post of you trying to tell me in some way that Wilder has wins as good as Joshua even though you cant directly answer. You have got yourself all upset and got into name calling so please just answer the question above and these below

What decent undefeated opponents has Wilder beaten at this point? What undefeated title holder has Wilder beaten at this point? What undefeated puncher has Wilder faced at this point?


Watch the duck

 

Maybe pre-Thompson Price. Current Price is a complete mental wreck who gets beaten up by journeymen and fringe types like Hammer. Whyte, Breazeale and Martin could all beat him IMO, probably even Molina.

 

Hammer was rated #10 on boxrec before the Price fight.

 

I know. Hence "fringe types".

 

Price is the fringe man, not Hammer.

 

Theres going to be more questions answered too..because Breazeale is better than Washington, and Breazeale imop would be Wilders best win actually,so were going to see how wilder compares fighting big tall true super heavy weights that match him in size something he relies on because he has holes in his technical game and who are not out of their prime and still learning.

 

Breazeale and Washington are more or less the same level.

 

I expect AJ to beat Vlad early probably. could be in trouble if vlad takes him in to deep water .I think Joshua could beat wilder but something troubles me about him to big and static I wonder what happens when he takes a big shot ? .maybe iam worrying about nothing lets hope so.

 

What a joke. Wilder is far more likely to be exposed as having a David Price-level mandible than Joshua as far as I can see. Joshua has been stepping up two years into his career to face guys it took Wilder like 5 or 6 years to get in with. And in facing Wlad, he's going far beyond where Wilder has EVER been.

Wilder is a fraud, packing glass in that mandible. Can't wait until he's exposed.