Deontay Wilder comeback training

Wilder is finished and should retire, the Fury trilogies took something from him. However unlike many past heavyweights who were able to find success in their late thirties despite significant wear and tear, his glaring lack of fundamentals is even more evident now. At his best I would favour him over a lot of the top 10 today. Now, I see him losing to most.

 

He got money already and lot of top Hw can kick his ass today.
He for sure must think about sense of continue his career. Is it worth to risk Your health?

He will not achieve nothing special now when he is near 40 soo.

If he dream about Joshua he should forget that. Anthony complete dont need him now soo...

Ducking Zhang show us that there is not lot of faith in them soo what's the reason to continue?

Probably they want stay on shape to earn smth on one of Saudi event. If he stay active he might got another last chance.

 

His hands were quite fast when he was younger. Maybe it's just the specific training he was doing on this day, but in the past I've thought he looked faster in this type of drill.

But maybe that's confirmation bias on my part.

 

I'm not convinced Wilder is significantly declined/finished... Or that he'd necessarily have beaten more than half of the top ten at any stage of his career.

But.

In many ways the best thing for his legacy would be to retire now.
For starters the Fury/Parker blueprint shows a style/tactics that Wilder just can't deal with - and as you say, his fundamentals are limited and that makes learning how to overcome that very difficult.

Whilst not every fighter could put him on the back foot, and not every fighter could keep it tight enough to avoid him being able to swing at all... The fact he's lost his air of invincibility will probably make more believe they could pull it off.

 

He's only about five or six thousand leg days behind to get himself caught up...

 

Thought I'd take a look at this out of some morbid curiosity. He looks like a guy working out, that's all. My opinion after his last fight is he's mentally finished.

 

I can't see the point in him continuing, tbh. While there might be the opportunity of another big pay day, he's not going to get any better. So agree with others here that, on balance, he's better off retiring for his legacy.

 

vs Hrgovic on 8th March or 18th May ?

 

I agree in many ways, I think Wilder has glaring weaknesses and boxers with fast hands and good footwork are his kryptonite. That being said anyone who is slow and leaves their chin exposed (like a Joyce) is always at risk of being stopped by 1 shot. He can still compete for me with some solid contenders but his time in the top 5 is done.

Also did you see NEETs had all his threads deleted and his account removed. The troll has had karma come his way at last.

 

the gravity in saudi was too heavy for him, it tired him out

 

I thought it smelled better around here

In all seriousness, I blocked most if not all of them anyway!

Joyce is a funny one - he's probably too slow to pull it off, but at the same time if he can march into Wilder with his stiff jab and get him on the back foot it's not impossible he could stop him... As you say though, he's so open to getting hit that Wilder in theory should have a good chance with him.

I know we have very different perspectives - certainly his time of being perceived as top 5 is over (unless he comes back, takes on and beats someone significant, but neither of us expects that to happen I think?)...
Whether he ever truly was beyond fringe top 5 is something of an open question in my mind (and always was) just because I think Ortiz was ridiculously overrated and the chasm between Ortiz and Fury was so wide that Wilder's level could've been almost anywhere from top level gatekeeper or fringe contender right up to legit contender... He'd have had to fight more contenders and won more to have proved the latter, and on principle I don't like being charitable with that assumption (because if most people did the same, maybe these guys would be more likely to step up and prove it - Wilder being just one example, here!).

 

Pulev beats Charr then Wilder.

 

Wilders biggest issue is his trainer. He needs a proper trainer.

 

Would it make much difference?

Breland was a decent enough trainer, but even with him Wilder was a purely instinctual fighter, with the same very limited fundamentals he's had ever since.

For fighters that want to learn and improve a great trainer can make a huge difference... For some, it doesn't matter nearly as much who they're working with.

 

Feed him to Nichols again.

Would be a YUGE event