Deontay Wilder compared to contemporaries in Boxrec

Boxrec is flawed in terms of rating people who moved up in weight but much better in terms of people who campaigned in the same division their whole career. I wouldn't use Okolie as proof of anything

 

They both signed when it couldn’t happen, let’s hope they sign when it can happen.

 

I wouldn't use Boxrec as proof of anything when it comes to all-time standings.

Michael Moorer moved up in weight and is a Hall of Famer. Yet, Okolie is nearly 100 spots higher on the all-time heavy list at Boxrec. Okolie is nearly 150 spots higher than Bruno on the all-time heavyweight list.

Does any Brit think Okolie is a better all-time heavyweight than Frank Bruno? Hundred and fifty spots better?

Callum Smith is rated higher all-time at light heavyweight than Bob Foster, Dwight Qawi, Marvin Johnson, Bob Fitzsimmons, Antonio Tarver ... all but Johnson bounced around divisions, too.

Does anyone think that's an accurate standing? Where did Callum Smith finish up on Boxrec's last all-time light heavy poll?

Higher than Bob Foster and Dwight Qawi?

Lazy trolling is all this thread is.

 

I agree with this.

I had no issues with the criticisms of Wilder when he was champion, his lost of defences was not very awe inspiring.

But there's a bit of revionism going on now where people are pretending he wasn't one of the top heavyweights at all.

It's all a bit strange tbh.

 

Disgraceful fight. I even thought Shaw was a pretty poor opponent for Wilder.

 

If you look at the ratings of guys who campaigned exclusively at heavyweight I think you will find them more accurate. Okolies high rating is due to his cruiserweight accomplishments which boxrec for whatever reason counts at heavyweight

But a rating in the 80s seems reasonable as does putting him behind Fury, Usyk, Dubois

 

It's easy to have that many fights when all you fight are tomatoes cans. Just a modern day Primo Carnera a manufactured champ.

 

I was about to say how can you have Dubios over Wilder... then I remembered the last 2 years. Yeah I agree.

 

You yourself ranked him in the top 3 once he'd beaten Stiverne so don't talk nonsense.

Some of the newer accounts can pretend they never rated him, but you've been here long enough that you did have him top 3.

 

Doesn't change anything, that's the problem with this revisionist nonsense.

You placed Wilder in the top 3 just like everyone else did, and that's ok, because literally everyone else did.

This new pretense that Wilder wasn't a top 3 fighter is all a bit strange.

 

Still doesn't change that like everyone else on the planet, at the time in question you had him top 3.

Repeatedly wanting a fight between Wilder and AJ because they were the top 2.

Same as we all did.