Deontay Wilder currently the Most Famous Boxer in the World (ESPN)

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  1. Charlie Stewart

    Charlie Stewart Most Merciful Full Member

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    this right here. espn with their bias political **** again are not even sticking to the criteria they've set out themselves and you can see that pattern up and down the list.
     
  2. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    How do they gauge this? Is it just taking America into account? You said the world, that`s bull, Wilder isn`t known in any other country than America and Canelo is far more popular in Mexico than Wilder is in America, this is pure speculation.
     
  3. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Canelo is the biggest star in boxing.
     
  4. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    He was awful in that round, backing off after the knockdown.
     
  5. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    How can they tell how famous someone is, if you asked anyone in America during the 90`s who Mike Tyson was, everbody would have known who you were talking about, he was a global superstar.
     
  6. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I hardly think Wilder is the greatest heavyweight of all time.
     
  7. Geo1122

    Geo1122 Active Member Full Member

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    It’s based off of search engine results, YouTube videos watched, tweets etc. It’s not a gauge for star power, but rather a gauge for what subject people are currently monitoring. I believe sporting icons have recently done a video explaining it better.

    Fury came in second. The pattern is rather simple when it’s explained, and it has nothing to do with fan bases. I myself find that i’ll Google/YouTube Wilder more than Joshua. Why? Because there are a lot more questions over Wilder. Therefore there are a lot more channels debating his moves, and usually criticising them. Wilder himself is also regularly putting up content, tweets etc.

    What I will say for Wilder though is that he may very well be entering into Broner territory, whereby people will tune in with the hope of seeing him lose. He won’t care where the numbers have come from.
     
  8. ryuken87

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    Only both Joshua and Fury have been Googled twice as much as Wilder over the past year. https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=anthony joshua,deontay wilder,tyson fury
     
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  9. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    This made me laugh during the press conference. First Espinoza, who was not cutting an impressive figure, dredged it up as evidence for Wilder's supposed global star power. Then Wilder, who is clearly not the sharpest tool in the box, tried to reference it when he was shouting at Breazeale.

    The funniest part is that they keep referencing the knock down at the Staples centre, even showing a 2 second slow mo of the punch in the 12th, but the only reason that clip went viral is Tyson Fury's recovery. Wilder is a supporting actor in his own supposed moment of triumph and I suspect he's too dumb to realise it.

    I'm sure the exposure has helped raise his profile and the amount he can command in subsequent fights, but this stat and the way they've tried to spin it is a bit lame to say the least.
     
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  10. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Anyone who thinks Lebron James is more known in the World than Messi or McGrecor need to have their head examined.
    This is a nationalistic pro US list by ESPN, this is their wish list more like it.
     
  11. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That list makes no sense. Sharapova is 3 spots behind Wilder while making nearly 17x more in endorsements and 12 mil more in social media following. What data are they collecting for the search scores? Number of google hits? I can't conceive how a guy who could walk through crowded streets in NY or LA without a soul knowing who they were would be more searched than sporting giants like Lionel Messi or LeBron James.
     
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  12. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This might be the dumbest post of the day. Seriously.

    Only a totally biased fan with the biggest blinders on would say ... "You know that brutal series of blows Wilder landed that planted the giant Tyson Fury into the floor? The only reason it was popular was because Fury got up."

    Are you seriously HIGH?

    Nearly all of Wilder's KOs have gone viral. Hell, Wilder swinging wildly after stopping Gerald Washington and Bermane Stiverne went viral.

    People love watching Wilder obliterate people.

    I congratulate Fury on getting up. Having 19 seconds to recover after his butt first hit the floor certainly helped prevent Wilder from finishing him off.

    But if someone replayed a clip of you in a fight and someone laid you out like Wilder laid out Fury ... it wouldn't be seen as a PLUS for you ... just because you managed to haul yourself off the floor.

    The lasting memory of that fight is Deontay Wilder planting Tyson Fury into the floor.

    Just like the lasting memory of Ali-Frazier I is Frazier planting Ali in the floor.

    The memory isn't ... "Look, Ali got up in three seconds."

    It's "Look at Frazier plant Ali in the floor."

    Was Frazier a joke for liking that clip of him flooring Ali? Was the GREAT MOMENT of that clip Ali getting up immediately after going down?

    Ali was only down for three seconds, unlike Fury. So does that make Frazier even dumber for being proud of that clip, because Ali got up so fast?

    Unbelievable.

    That is probably the most famous clip of Tyson Fury. And it's of him getting his head knocked off.

    This INSANE BASHING of Wilder has gotten so utterly ridiculous, people are bashing Wilder for being proud of a video showing him taking Fury's head off and retaining his title.

    The bias against Wilder has truly reached epic proportions.

    But, I guess that just goes with the territory when you're the MOST FAMOUS FIGHTER in the WORLD!

    There are always going to be LOONS out there seeing great accomplishments as negatives.
     
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  13. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mark Ant, ladies and gentleman.

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  14. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    More legitimate metrics? You mean you searching Google because you don't like where Wilder is situated?

    They put that list together every year.

    Every year boxers are on it. Nobody says squat.

    Wilder appears highly on the list for the first time, and all of a sudden it's a conspiracy, people who quote the list are condescending and delusional?

    Just because you don't agree doesn't make it wrong.

    The only people raising a stink about this list, from what I can tell, are the people attacking me on this site for posting it. Because this site has piled on Wilder for years.

    Now that Wilder is being recognized, everyone around here is throwing a temper tantrum.

    Take note of all the rest of the world. Where are all the other sites that went nuts over it?

    Nobody else raised an eyebrow over the list. Basically, everyone was fine with it. Except for the Wilder bashers on this site.
     
  15. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    Before Fury toyed with him everyone was a little concerned with his vaunted "powa" but Fury showed that it is Cunningham level at best (tbh Fury was more shook after Cunningham) so now everyone are throwing money at him for that green belt. DANZ want him to be a lamb to the slaughter for AJ and they know long term AJ will be making them the return they are throwing away on getting Wilder....

    It doesn't really matter who AJ fights he is going to be making top $$$..

    The real reason why Wilder's team are not accepting any offers is because they also saw Fury toying with him and know AJ punches alot harder than Fury..