Are you dense or what? Swag said he would take Wilder over 1977 Ali, but he said in different post that he wouldn't take him over 1970s Ali. This thread isn't about replacing Shaver with Wilder, even 1975 Ali was much better than the one Shavers faced
I said I would take him over THE VERSION OF ALI THAT SHAVERS FACED. Not the best version of '70s Ali. For the record I'd also favor Wilder over a '73 Holmes, and '76 Frazier. Doesn't mean I'd favor him over the best 70s' renditions of them.
You never said anything like the "BEST" version of Ali. I copied and pasted exactly what you wrote. The word BEST isn't anywhere in there. You're changing what you said as you go along. **** off, too. Seriously. I've had it with your insults, too. You and the troll who doesn't know who Earnie Shavers is BUT INSISTED on arguing with me about it.
He definitely talked about versions Shavers faced in that post you quoted. He also included versions of Frazier and Foreman that Shavers faced, right?
I never said "the best version of Ali" because I thought it was obvious to anyone with a brain (you obviously don't qualify), favoring Wilder over '77 Ali and favoring the best rendition of 70s Ali over Wilder weren't mutually exclusive.
So it seems you don't understand sarcasm either? You really should work on your reading comprehension...
You actually liked his post where he said you were referring to the versions of Foreman and Frazier who "Shavers" fought? Do you know who Earnie Shavers was? This is the classic forum, right? Gotta go now. Be sure and post links to the Foreman-Shavers and Frazier-Shavers fights you both are referencing. I'd love to see them.
I didn't insist Liston was any age, nor do I know. 1940 census indicates his birthyear is 1929/30. 1950 census indicates his birthyear is 1922/1923. Newspaper records indicate his birth year is 1927. Doctor's estimates have him born between 1923 and 1926. It's a mystery, and nobody truly knows and if they say they do, they're lying (like yourself).
Are you really that stupid that you didn't grasp the sarcasm in his post? Jesus, you're even dumber than I thought. I'm not going to spell it out for you.
So apparently, if someone starts a thread and asks does Shavers do better than Deontay did in this time period, it's okay for me to say Sergei Liakhovich beats Shavers. And when people go crazy and say things like "Shavers would've killed the Liakhovich who Wilder fought." Apparently, I can say, "NO STUPID, I meant the BEST version of Liakhovich against Brewster, not the version Wilder actually fought, idiot. God. Isn't it obvious to anyone with a brain? Can't you read?" IS that how far we've come to try to protect Shavers now? We can't actually compare how Wilder would do against the guys Shavers actually fought, we have to compare them to guys he fought ... but BETTER versions than those Shavers faced? How does Shavers do against the ABSOLUTE BEST version of Fury three times? (Can't play the "30% cherry pick Fury" game that way, can we?) You, the troll (who apparently knows what sarcasm is like he knows who Earnie Shavers was), and your buddy the ***** have fun moving the goal posts. I'd rather stick a pencil in my neck than keep talking to you.