Deontay Wilder is a hype job

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  1. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    I don't bash Wilder often even though I have good reason to.

    Given I knew Fury would be bashing his head in before it actually happened. I am quite content.

    I don't need his fanboys to tell me fictions from fact.
     
  2. RB1702

    RB1702 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bruh you’re talking like Wilder was a huge attraction and main draw in boxing. His highest payday was 2.1 mil dollars against Ortiz. Wilder needed Fury to get a big payday. Fury needed Wilder as well. They both needed Joshua to make astronomical amount of money. AJ could fight my gran and still fill Wembley and make 20 million pounds. Levels.
     
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  3. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Fury's ESPN deal is bigger than any broadcasting deal AJ or Wilder have.

    & they have made a wise investment.
     
  4. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fanboy? You're the one with the Fury photo over your name.

    The last guy any Fury fan should be bashing is Wilder. There wouldn't be a Tyson Fury without Wilder. No ESPN deal. No U.S. audience. Fury didn't get an ESPN deal after facing Wlad.

    Without Wilder, Fury would be fighting Sefer Seferi types on UK undercards begging Joshua for a shot and being dismissed because Fury was a PED cheat.
     
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  5. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    All roads lead to Fury and if you travel along that road to fight him your road will come to an end.
     
  6. RB1702

    RB1702 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bob Arum came out in an interview and said the reported 5 fight deal worth 80 million dollars wasn’t anywhere close to the real number and he said he had no idea where the media got that number from. Pretty sure AJ’s 3 year sky sports deal was worth more. Anyhow answer this miniq. Could Fury fill Wembley against Takam and Povetkin? Simple no will suffice. Half of the 8,000 tickets in the Wallin fight had to be given away lol. AJ sold out MSG in US debut.
     
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  7. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oh please, Eddie Hearn wanted to make a Wilder-Joshua fight before Wilder ever fought Fury.

    You know who Eddie Hearn never tried to negotiate a fight with until he beat Wilder? Tyson Fury.

    Again, Wilder made Fury.

    Wlad didn't. Wilder did.

    After Fury beat Wlad, Fury was still fighting on UK undercards until he got a shot at Wilder.

    And that's the hard truth.
     
  8. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Casuals are a hell of a drug, you are the perfect example :gaydude:
     
  9. RB1702

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    AJ is a bigger draw than Fury.
     
  10. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Not for long. Not that it matters.
     
  11. JDub

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    He was America’s only real hope at HW. That’s pretty much why he was so hyped and protected for so long.
     
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  12. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nonsense. Lennox's people thought McCall was an easy defense. Morrison's people thought Bentt was an easy defense. Ali's people thought Spinks was an easy defense. Joshua's people thought Ruiz was an easy defense. Hell, Holmes's people thought Michael Spinks was an easy defense.

    At heavyweight, anyone can beat anyone. Wilder could've lost either fight to Ortiz. Wilder could've lost to Fury if he didn't drop him not once but twice. Wilder could've lost to Arreola after Wilder broke his hand AND tore his bicep - both of which required surgeries to repair - in the same fight. Wilder never could've won the title after breaking his hand early in his title winning bout.

    Just like Larry Holmes could've easily been dropped twice from one punch by Renaldo Snipes and lost his title - luckily Holmes fell face first into the corner which kept him up after he'd already fallen once - Snipes could've been to Holmes what McCall was to Lewis or Ruiz to Joshua. Any number of guys could've upset Wilder if he had, in fact, been a hype job.

    But he was no hype job.

    Wilder was WBC champ for five years. made 11 title defenses and overcame a lot to do it. If it was easy, five-year reigns at heavyweight and double-digit title defenses would be a dime a dozen. And they aren't.

    Threads like this show the ignorance of people who start them.
     
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  13. JDub

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    I think you have replied to the wrong post here. Your response doesn’t really hold any relevance to mine.
     
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  14. eltirado

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    You are underestimating the boxing skills of 1000s of suppressed journeymen.

    Boxing skills will never win a journeyman the big fights vs physically bigger prospects, when the skilled journeyman pulls it off & schools the physically bigger prospect, he gets robbed...usually quietly in an untelevised fight.

    Punching Power is a different dimension, it requires desperation, recklessness and an intense pressure on the CNS to concentrate signals into the cells that deliver the impressive KO punch, promoters, judges...were silenced when Deontay Wilder climbed into the ring, ended it all with 1300+ psi right hands, That is how WW2 ended.

    Power is respected, Deontay Wilder surpassed boxing & will go down in human history as the hardest puncher to ever walked Earth.

    Any Heavyweight knows he will get flattened if he ever faces Deontay Wilder, its not an exaggeration. Despite the unfavorable odds, Anthony Joshua will make the brave decision to face Deontay Wilder, because that is what World Champions do
     
  15. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Harsh words, but this expected with reactions to Grandiose figure...We don't have anything to say about normal folks, us no-name folks are influenced by the God-like figures. That is how people are divided by religion & Emperors as far as history goes

    Deontay Wilder will be hated/loved/admired/feared by Billions of humans

    The biggest chapter of Deontay Wilder legacy didn't start yet...