Deontay Wilder is asked a question many here have argued endlessly.

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  1. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    The argument goes: "In the heavyweight division, the great punchers who were small are better than the big guys."

    We've heard this one before right? It's essentially the argument classic fans use to justify fantasy matches between guys like Louis, and Klitschko.

    So Wilder did an interview recently, where a fan asked him that question. Here is the questions and answer:

    Fan: "Do you consider smaller and quicker heavyweights to be more difficult to face than the bigger, harder hitting but slower guys?"

    Wilder: "I think the one's that's smaller but hit hard are the most difficult, but the bigger slow guy is a target."
     
  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Great.. Then let's find some 6'0", 195 lbs guys for him to fight.
     
  3. BCS8

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    What about the big, fast, hard hitting guys?
     
  4. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Has Wilder ever fought a small, hard to hit heavyweight? Trained with one?

    Honest question: who was the last world-class small, hard-to-hit heavyweight? Closest I can come up with is 6'3/78-inch/210-225lb David Haye. Maybe 6'1/210-215lb Chris Byrd, if we go back a decade?
     
  5. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Lol guys relax, I'm not Wilder.

    Sorry if he didn't answer the question the way you hoped he would.

    Unlike any of us, he clearly didn't have an agenda. He was just having fun taking questions from fans and those are his thoughts. The immediate defensive reaction of questioning his credibility is hilarious.
     
  6. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Yeah, I think that's pretty spot on. But notice how that has nothing to do with Wilders answer.

    The fan compares small, quick heavyweights to large hard hitting ones. But Wilder flips it around, and compares small hard hitters to the bigger guys.

    He says verbatim "I think the one's that's smaller but hit hard are the most difficult"
     
  7. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Since Wilder is completely incompetant at the sport of boxing, why ask him?
     
  8. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Ah, I misread. Guess that eliminates Chris Byrd from consideration and leaves us David Haye, if we consider 6'3/78-inch/210-225 "smaller." Might have been more useful if anyone had asked any decent followup questions. That's the difficulty of searching for insight in reddit q&as, I guess.
     
  9. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    exactly. Unless you want to count Roy Jones for his one showing against John Ruiz. But If this is about "old school" small fast heavy's then you'd be looking at mostly guys under 200 lbs, and in many cases under 6 foot. Regardless of Wilder's testimony, I can't see him losing to anyone of that description. The Jones who beat Ruiz would have gotten beat badly by wilder on size alone, as would guys like Patterson, Walcott, Charles, etc..
     
  10. janitor

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    Somebody like Steve Cunningham might well beat him.
     
  11. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Wilder would punish Steve Cunningham and stop him early.
     
  12. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Again, he's not talking about small fast guys.
     
  13. janitor

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    I am not convinced.

    Also, there is nothing to stop him defending his title against Steve Cunningham if he wants to!
     
  14. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    To me it speaks volumes.

    Wilder said small heavy hitters are the toughest opponents. He doesn't have to fight David Haye to know that. It's likely a general pattern he's noticed in his years fighting and sparring many different kinds of boxers of varying degrees of skill, sizes, ability, and accomplishment.
     
  15. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    No way-- I'm shocked!! :lol: