Deontay Wilder On Points

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  1. Cairney30

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    Fury schools him wilder struggled against a old Ortiz and I honesty think fury sees the right hand coming before wilder lands it
     
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  2. channy

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    I'm with you on this one fella, I see fury using his weight to great advantage and stopping an exhausted Wilder.
     
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  3. dellboi94

    dellboi94 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilder's unorthodox approach will win him this fight. Wilder has a weird rhythm and is hard to read at times, people saying because Fury outboxed Wlad means he will outbox Wilder are wrong imo. Look at the two right hands that dropped Fury. Neither were conventional straight rights, they were looping rights that were brought up from low, Fury didn't see them coming. Wilder will KO Fury with one of his wild shots.
     
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  4. ryanm8655

    ryanm8655 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The converse to that is Wilder has been outboxed by the likes of Gerald Washington in the past...

    Only way Wilder wins is by KO and that would take a big lapse in concentration from fury...
     
  5. Infern0121

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    This.

    That Wlad win was a good win but I've said a million times that was a great style matchup for Fury as Klitschko is a control freak OCD type that doesn't take risks.

    Wilder always takes risks because he has to, he's used to getting outboxed so it's not like that's going to be a new experience for him.

    When Wilder loses it will be someone like Joshua outboxing him for a round or two then stepping in with a brutal combination and knocking him out. Not by someone playing tig for 12 rounds like Fury will try.

    You give wilder 36 minutes to land one shot and he will.
     
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  6. Infern0121

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    Washington outboxed him until Wilder realized his punches didn't hurt and just started walking him down, as he will do to Fury.

    If Fury had really good power and could seriously hurt wilder he might have a chance but he doesn't.
     
  7. Furious

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    It's ludicrous to suggest that Fury 'doesn't have good power' - he obviously does, he's an enormous man. All top heavyweights are very capable of knocking each other out.
     
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  8. Twentyman

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    Bang on. It’s an absolute myth.
     
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  9. Furious

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    Watching Fury interviewed by Brendan Shaub he discusses this and the couple of knockdowns earlier in his career.

    He was saying how early in his career he used to try and knock people out by coming forward, then realised that you can’t keep taking shots at HW so learned to box clever.

    People who’ve sparred him talk about the cumulative effect of his punches. He’s not as explosive or venomous as Wilder or Joshua but he breaks people down. Look at Chisora 2! Not many people can do that to him.
     
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  10. caligula4

    caligula4 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fair play on Fury McDermott 1, which was definitely morally a McDermott win and everyone including Terry O'Connor knows it, but I disagree with the rest of your comment, simply referencing Wlad Fury.

    If it's too wide to even screw a fighter so blatantly, then it usually won't happen in front of a worldwide audience. Wlad Fury was too wide to even pretend (albeit dull), so justice was served. The same could feasibly happen again away from home.
     
  11. 305th

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    Interesting comment from the youtube video of Fury McDermott 1;

    "Not suggesting any inpropriety but McDermott's father beat Terry O'Connor the referee in a professional bout and he allegedly held a grudge for it...that is a fact."

    Now, where is my bacofoil hat?
     
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  12. caligula4

    caligula4 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Never knew that, very interesting though and about to 'boxrec' it to check. I'd always just figured Mick Hennessy simply had O'Conman on the payroll that night and didn't want his prospect to lose his 0.
     
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  13. 305th

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    I'd say your theory based on the real world truth that you can never be too cynical when it comes to money, is more likely at least as a main cause.

    Just checked boxrec, Stan McDermott (1 0 1), 12-06-77. TKO'ed him in round 5 of a 6 rounder.
     
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  14. caligula4

    caligula4 Well-Known Member Full Member

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