Deontay Wilder- punching power overrated ?

To be honest, when we're discussing about the most powerful heavyweight punchers like Alexander Povetkin, Deontay Wilder, Anthony Joshua and the Klitschkos. The differences in punching power between them is extremely marginal and sometimes unnoticeable. In that all have the necessary punching power required to knock practically every heavyweight out if they are able to land their most powerful punches accurately on the correct areas of their opponent's body. It just the damage inflicted after the knockout may differ. For instance, Povetkin knocked Johan Duhapas out unconscious and Deontay Wilder knocked Artur Szpilka out unconscious. Who inflicted greater damage upon their opponents from knocking their respective opponents out? It's extremely marginal. One guy's knockout may cause his opponent to not be the same any more in the future whilst the other guy's knockout may not cause any significant long term future damage

I personally don't see any evidence that suggests Wilder's knockout power is necessarily greater than Povetkin's. At best, I can accept the position that both may have equal knockout power whilst Povetkin is the better offensive boxer with better offensive skills. However, I have no reason to believe Wilder's most powerful punches are more powerful than Povetkin's most powerful punches. Even according to my 'eye test' but that's just me.

Although Wladimir Klitschko looks like he punches with the most raw force when he really decides to sit down on his punches

But yes, I agree in the whole that 'offensive skills' > raw punching power and Alexander Povetkin's offensive skills are superior to Wilder's offensive skills. Even if they are relatively even in the punching power department.

 

I dont think Wilders power is overated. I also think his technique is underated. When he has a man hurt or feels no threat from him he gets a little giddy and messy and thats where the windmilling comes in but when he isnt getting giddy he can posess a great jab and a superb counter punch.

Povetkin, Wilder, Joshua, what they all have is enough power to stop anybody. Hard to say who has the most but they all have enough.

 

It's true he only windmills when he's basically got his opponent out on their feet. But he does still throw some crazy shots at other times. Like at the start of the 4th round vs Washington he threw a bunch of crazy overhand rights, then there was that truly ludicrous punch he tried to throw at Szpilka when neither of his feet were on the ground and unsurprisingly he fell flat on his face, I've never seen a fighter do that, not even a novice Tyson "punch myself in the face" Fury ever threw such a crazy shot.

If he tries anything like that vs Joshua or even Ortiz he's going to get flattened.

 

His power is real. But I also think that he can be rushed. Someone like Ortiz can blast him out in a quick fashion.

 

Wilder is a huge puncher. Anyone who can't see that needs their eyes checked.

 

Someone like Corrie Sanders RIP would absolutely obliterate Wilder

 

The way Wilder leans back with his guard down and how he falls forward with his right hand he could very well get punished badly by Sander's straight left counter. Another southpaw counter puncher in Szpilka gave him all kinds of issues but lacked Sanders power.

 

He has power but it is untested against the top fighters because he has fought so many average fighters, I will reserve judgement until after the Ortiz fight (if it goes ahead)

 

Deontay's certainly a devastating puncher.

 

**** learning about the technical aspects of power punching. Finding out who hits hard is a resume affair.

AJ lacks real devastating power be of his posture. He probably generates more energy than Wilder but look at the kid. It's not hard to figure out why he gets tired and why he can't KO with one punch.

Povetkin's lack of space control puts him in a similar situation. You can't hit at peak energy if you're reaching or turning your punches in to the inside when you launched them for mid.

Wlad didn't throw the big hammer often, but when Wlad threw to KO Wlad threw legitimately heavy power. Took Foreman four to get rid of Jameson, Bruno did it in 2. Bruno's the better boxer? Harder hitter? Yeah, like ****. Charles was KO'd in six by Young Jack Johnson, a 24-20 fighter, who surely hits harder than Marciano or at least did that night. Louis took four round to get rid on Beshore while the great and well known McClure was able to do it in one.

All these counterfeit fake punchers are nothing more than a media created lie because everyone ever known for hitting hard has KOs that guys not particularly known for their power beat if you measure power in time.....like a moron reaching for any reason to take shine without ever bothering to learn the fundamental theories employed to gain such recognition.

Only Wlad, Aj and Pov were ignorant as **** suggestions. Go read a book on boxing technique you ignorant ****s.

 

The only things that stand out when you see Deontay is his power and his ability to land outside of the pocket.

Both these attributes look great against the tier below world class, but power is something that notoriously does not carry up the levels like other attributes prove to. Usually the top guys have better defence and better chins on them than the lower level guys.

Certain greats of the past for example at HW just could not be knocked out, as a power monger what is your plan b when you are 7 or 8 rounds down going into the 11th and you your power is not a factor? You lose a wide UD.

 

There is no way of knowing whether his punching power is overrated at this point. He needs to step in with AJ to find out. That will be the litmus test.

 

VERY overrated. Virtually any HW could KO the utter stiffs he padded his record with for the first 5 years of his career, and the assortment of washed up "name" opponents, glass jawed journeymen, and other mediocrities he's faced since.

Wilder is a manufactured FRAUD, both in terms of his supposed "power" and his ability to take a decent punch. Sadly, as the poll demonstrates, PT Barnum was right, there are suckers born every minute who will buy into these congames!

 

There's no doubt he can Bang, technique is terrible, but if he catches Joshua or Fury they are going to seriously know about it !

 

Pure power: Overrated - Straight punches down the pipe seems to not affect his opponents as much as say Joshua or Klitschko's.

Precision/Timing/: Underrated - Often lands, behind the ears due to his looping technique and height /reach advantage combined with timing and resilience.

Example: When his opponent take a step back, Wilder closes the distance quick and coming in with that long looping flail which goes around the guard and connects behind the ear on the cerebellum (Balance center).

Punches is not only about pure power, its more important to hit the weak spots like the chin and temple.

This technique works great against short plodders like Stiverne but it didn't look nearly as good against Washington - a poor mans Joshua in terms of size, style and skill.