Deontay wilder = the most overrated puncher ever!

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  1. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Dude can you relax? 4 page and 90% of the comments are yours. Is there moderators on this board?
    Oh dear Wlad ruin so many lifes ...
    And for clinches, stop crying dude. There is a guys that use a lot illegal tactics that can hurt your health, clinches cant.
    In his last matches he was hit a lot of times after break from referee, he was punched a lot of times in a kidney area(its illegal) and some guys are trying to spear him charging with their heads ...
    Oh i forget the thousand rabbit punches in Wlad back of the head ....
    This is all illegal but why you not complain about that
    Klitschko clinches are fast is not a holding. Holding was what Lewis and Holyfield was doing. What Floyd was doing.
    And for god sake watch some matches of old greats, they all use clinches.
    Everytime someone got close to Holmes, he clinches. Ali was using clinches for fun .....
    Lewis was using clinches non stop, Holyfield as well. Not to mention headbutts and so on.
    Lewis - Mercer, more then 100 clinches by Lewis, there was low blows and so on, Klitschko destroy Mercer without single clinch ....
    Everyone with brain will clinch when someone with good inside game jump on him. If you are stupid enough to go backwards, you will be in his range and he will annihilate you.
    Simple as that.
    Klitschko power is real, he is not in the same league with Wilder.
    He will destroy Fury and then destroy the bum Wilder.
     
    lordlosh, Sep 27, 2015
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  2. thesnowman22

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    Wilder certainly has tremendous power. To say otherwise is stupidity. Neither Stiverne or Duhaupas has ever been off their feet, they have iron chins. Klitschko also has tremendous power.
     
    thesnowman22, Sep 27, 2015
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  3. Paperagent

    Paperagent Well-Known Member Full Member

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    My point is that not only is his power legit, if he were not to clinch and foul as much as he does right now and strike a balance between fighting and clinching he would get people out of there a lot sooner due to his sheer size and athleticism. But he doesn't because he has the right physical tool set to fully utilize his clinching style he uses now; a skill he only really uses against shorter fighters charging in head first. Against taller fighters his own size, Wlad looks much more professional.
     
    Paperagent, Sep 27, 2015
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  4. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    300 punches landed on that bum, all flush, and he couldn't even put him down once.

    Wilder's power is as fraudolent as everything else.
     
    RememberingC.S., Sep 28, 2015
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  5. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ali actually clinched 147 times in the "Match of the century" against Frazier.

    He also leaned on the neck, pushed and elbowed.

    But it's all good when he's doing it :good What a legend! Put down by a fatty 185 lbs twink? ATG GRANITE CHIN.

    Spent entire rounds barely throwing a punch? ENDLESS STAMINA

    Did all the fundamentals wrong, did amaterish mistakes like slapping and being constantly out of balance? UNREACHABLE SKILLS.
     
    RememberingC.S., Sep 28, 2015
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  6. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Sam Peter was a very overrated puncher. Many on here predicted Wilder would not be scoring the brutal KO's when his competition stepped up.
     
    Rico Spadafora, Sep 28, 2015
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  7. hussleman

    hussleman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wilder and Wlad sparred several times. Wlad, admitted Wilder hits very hard and his power is real.
     
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  8. Serge

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    Owen ''What The F--king Heck'' Beck has fought and sparred against a who's who of the HW division, including doing both against Wilder (the former of which when Beck was shot to pieces).

    Interviewer: ''Everyone talks about Wilder's big punch and his KO ratio 33 fights, 33 KOs. Does he really hit that hard?''

    Owen Beck: ''He doesn't.

    ''You heard me say he hits like a girl.''

    ''He's dirty fighter''

    ''He couldn't knock me out''

    ''Monte Barrett hits harder than Wilder''

    Interviewer: ''There's a big debate as to whether Wilder's power is overrated.''

    OB: ''I don't respect his power. I've got young amateurs in my gym who hit harder than him. I've got 152lb fighter in my gym who hits harder than Deontay and this kid only has 3 amateur fights.''

    ''I'm not going to try and take too much away him or anything but I don't respect his power.''

    ''If you're over 200lbs you can punch. But like I said, I didn't see nothing from Wilder that I would respect''
     
    Serge, Sep 28, 2015
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  9. flem1

    flem1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Then why did Owen Beck only last 3 rounds against Wilder?
     
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  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Er.. probably because, as I have already mentioned, he was shot to pieces.
     
    Serge, Sep 28, 2015
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  11. flem1

    flem1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I see. A shot pieces Beck only lasted 3 rounds against Wilder. While a shot to pieces Beck also lasted longer against Szpilka, Tony Thompson, Alex Leapai :D

    Wilder has power in his punches. deal with it :D
     
    flem1, Sep 28, 2015
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  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Yes a shot to pieces Beck who had lost 7 fights on the spin prior to facing Wilder, 6 of which via stoppage. The only fighter who didn't get him out of there was making his debut and in a 4 rounder. :rofl

    You do realize that getting your brains pounded in time and time again will diminish a fighter don't you? Beck fought Thompson and Leapai in 2010 when he had a bit more left in the tank and wasn't on a 7 fight losing streak, 6 via the short route. Anyway, Beck only lasted into the 4th against Thompson, that's one round longer than it took Wilder, as he did against Szpilka :rofl
     
    Serge, Sep 28, 2015
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  13. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    I think so too! He's not as bad as his critics wish, but he's clearly a fraud belt milker who has trouble with top 30-40 ranked fighters.
     
    Mendoza, Sep 28, 2015
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  14. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Well I wouldn't say "the most overrated" but... OK
     
    alexthegreatmc, Sep 28, 2015
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  15. Paperagent

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    He might have power, but it is certainly not the one punch KO power his promoters were trying to peddle.
     
    Paperagent, Sep 28, 2015
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