Deontay Wilder, the most powerful human in history?

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  1. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    P4P will be very hard to measure, but will definitely favor the lighter weights.

    108 Inoue definitely exceeds the (2x) PSI of 220 heavyweight, which brings the need to average in the Energy & other factors not just PSI, it is easier to say Wilder is the hardest Puncher in Humanity because less calculations & subjective criteria involved.
     
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  2. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nah, intelligence matters at literally any level in the world, where there are conscious agents / entities in the world, that have control over events that take place in the world. This need not apply to only humans!

    At any rate, the most intelligent are the highest up the food chain. If / when artificially intelligent systems in robots and cyborgs become more intelligent than humans, humanity will be surpassed in that food chain.

    As for Deontay's power, Deontay Wilder's punching power has only been proven against washed up cherry picked opponents or cherry picked bums / journeymen. Wilder's KO record is equivalent to me facing a glass-jawed Amir Khan 42 times and scoring 42 KO's, with a 100% KO record and boasting I'm the most powerful puncher ever. Quantity alone is not sufficient enough. Quality matters and level / type of opposition also matter.

    When Wilder KO's actual opponents with proven durability in their primes on a regular basis, then I may reconsider Wilder's power. Until then, he is totally unproven. Even if he goes on to knocking out 100 more opponents at the caliber of opponents he has KO'ed, it still won't prove he is the most powerful puncher.

    Johann Duhaupas is Wilder's most durable prime opponent after 42 fights. Let that fact sink in for a moment!. Duhaupas of all people. And funny how against someone with only slightly above average durability in Duhaupas, it was one of those ONLY fights where Wilder couldn't even score a single knockdown after landing a career high number of punches, consisting of nearly 1000 maximum powered flush shots. So yes, with this fact being taken into consideration, Wilder absolutely DOES NOT and COULD NOT qualify as the hardest puncher ever.
     
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  3. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    He's got nothing on Hercules.
     
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  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    **** Hercules Primo is the hardest man ever
     
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  5. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    This really went 17 pages?
     
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  6. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    LOL.

    Here. I'll summarize. Wilder is the strongest man alive. Wilder only fought punks with glass chins. And one clown who thinks he can knock out Amir Khan 42 times.

    That's about it.
     
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  7. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Didn't you know?

    They're related.
     
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  8. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tbf he probably could Knock amir out 42 times...

    If he survives that long
     
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  9. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Many people confuse education with intelligence, an irrelevant subject...but in short education is meant to produce good citizens/peasants, while intelligence is one of traits that played an important role in human evolution (within the Elite class only), because the Alpha male ambition started adding Brave agile hunters, which later evolved into a warrior caste in the Mesolithic & eventually incorporated large populations of peasants when the Alpha male planned the exploitation of the agricultural revolution, the final stage was governing with peasants being the majority of humanity & warriors reduced by constant conflicts, so the majority of humans are descendants of subjugated peasants, who had to follow whatever Moral-Legal codes are imposed on them (The Intelligent minority decides what is best for the majority), education is to make sure the peasants/citizens learn to obey laws & be moral

    99.99% of humans lack Elite level intelligence

    99.99% of humans lack Elite level punching power


    If you don't think Deontay Wilder is the Hardest puncher to ever walk earth, simply start listing names of boxers who are harder punchers (educate fellow boxing fans).

    You had more than 5 years to let it sink in...Now Deontay Wilder is recognized by all top Boxing experts for his ATG punching power.

    The Subject is not your feelings nor Wilder education or even his boxing career

    The subject is Deontay Wilder Elite punching power, that puts him ahead of all humanity
     
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    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    It's the internet, it can spare 17 pages....
     
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  11. don owens

    don owens Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jeez.....I've been worn down. Sign me up. I think.
     
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  12. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It is a long game, Wilder got himself in the exclusive club of Elite humans...Books and Statues will acknowledge him as an Elite human

    You have to earn it, no signing up, no buying in, no shortcuts....No one writes books or make statues of peasants/citizens...
     
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  13. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you think you are an elite?
     
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  14. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If you "think" more than likely you are not an "Elite"
     
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  15. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    in other words you are a big mouthed *****.
     
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