Deontay Wilder "The Return Is Near"

He's aiming to be dramatic.

 

Wilders last 5 fights have been competitive a bit. You guys are the ones who said his eyes puffed up, Spilztka and his last opponent were supposedly beating him.

At some point he other guy did ok before they were stopped so I'm not sure what you're saying.

Joshua and Wilder are coming along. There was no "who is the draw talk" talk before Joshua fought Wlad. Now Joshua is this elephant and everyone else are ants mentality.

 

Its not so much that Washington or Molina for example werent doing well against Wilder and he had an easy time with them.
I just think it represents the level Wilder is at. And there is nothing wrong with that. They were both competitive with Wilder until inevitably they walked on to that big right, but they are both nobodies. And as a World Champ you should be many levels above that. Thats the issue for Hearn and AJ. They will see Molina, who wasnt the least bit competitive with AJ and if anything he looked terrified the second the first bell rang, as a bum who took Wilder 9 rounds and think "How can we spin a fight against Wilder into a megafight unless he beats someone better and does it convincingly?".

I know you probably dont believe me, i actually would love to like Wilder. He is so explosive as you have pointed out and he has his flaws, like every exciting fighter. They are both beatable, but it just seems imo Wilder or his team is so aware of his vulnerabilities they are unwilling to take any risks against a top fighter UNLESS its Joshua for megabucks.

Thats literally my only problem with Wilder, i know i b*itch and moan and give him stick but its all based around the same thing. Whats not to like about a HW who can bang, KO'd over 90% of his opponents, is vulnerable and open to take a big shot, has a question mark over his chin and who runs his mouth? If he showed he could back it up by getting top level opponents then im genuinely straightaway interested and would likely tune in and watch.

Same reason i like Joshua, not just cos im a ****gobbling brit. But despite his explosiveness, charisma, KO power, will to win he has shown he is open to getting dropped, his head movement makes him a static target too often, he gasses badly. If Joshua was unbeatable as some people think he is it would be boring. And thats how i see Wilder against the level of opposition he has faced over nearly 40 fights. And if joshua in 20 fights time if he is still going and still has nobody big except Wlad on his resume and is taking seemingly easy fights, believe me i will be turned off completely.

Said it before, i would rather see AJ fight the best and lose than fight the Molina's of the division twice a year just to keep his 0. Would not stop being a fan if he went in against Wlad and got KO'd in the first against Wlad in April, at least he risked it and gave it a bash.

I have probably massively digressed in writing this to be honest and went way off topic. apologies lol

 

And regarding the draw mentality seeing AJ as "The Man" etc.
That is unfortunately largely down to the huge casual appeal AJ has. In the UK his picture is everywhere, in every sports clothing shop a big photo of AJ in the display wearing Under Armour, he is on Sky adverts, Sky Ambassador, Lynx Adverts, Lucozade sponsor him. He is a handsome chap with a great physique (no matter whether whether its been attained with/without PEDS) and he is charismatic to the UK, add to that the fact he is a gold medalist (deserved or not) and in the pros he has KO'd everyone including Klitschko it gives him ridiculous appeal. Everyone in the UK knows who he is and you would be hard pushed to find many detractors in the UK that actively dislike him.
The casual market cannot be underestimated with AJ, and it makes him a draw because even people who arent that interested in boxing and couldnt name you another active British fighter except Tyson Fury buy most of AJ's fights.
Many of these people know literally nothing about boxing except they like Joshua and they know who Klitschko is because he beat Haye and has been at the top for so long and therefore its huge.
Some of the casuals are so bad i have seen on twitter demanding that AJ fight Mayweather because Mayweather v Mcgregor is a joke of a fight looool. But yeah, the casuals are mad for AJ. Im no hardcore boxing fan, im inbetween the casual and hardcore, so i dont want to see AJ kill Mayweather thankfully.

And unfortunately for other fighters it makes Joshua the draw against anyone in the division, and with Joshuas motivator being money it makes it more difficult than, im a champ and your a champ, lets get it on. It becomes im bringing the IBF and WBA titles, 1mil+ PPVs and a guranteed sell out to the table generating millions, what is your guy bringing?

Thats why, imo anyway, Wilder Joshua wont happen til Wilders monetary potential goes up.

 

Why would you post a video of himself demonstrating some of the worse technique I have seen of any World belt holder in my 33 years on this planet ?

Throws a horrib rabbit punch at one point and grinds his hips while in a clinch trying to look ****** strong ..... worse montage ever !

 

The amount of fights doesn't matter in boxing. One won Told the other Bronze. Their comp is similar with the exception that Joshua fought 41 year old Wlad. I don't want Joshua becoming complacent with U.K. money and not becoming a true champion. Same with Wilder. I see that Joshua is vulnerable. I want to see him fight a prime fighter in Wilder and see how he deals with Wilders right hand.

 

Wilder vs Scott 2 The fight we've all been waiting for

 

I'm happy that Joshua has a fanbase that loves him diehard or casuals. I just don't want him to hide behind the U.K. crowd and let Hearn dictate his future. Wilder and Joshua are on collision course whether people like it or not. Neither of them are champion yet. The winner has a bright future. I mean bright.

 

The amounts of fights does matter in boxing, unless your a journeyman you should be landing big fights consistenly after 40 fights. Not every single fight can be a big name obviously, im not expecting Wilder or AJ to have megafight after megafight between the worlds number 1 and 2 at the times. But they should now be both landing big fights, AJ seems to be doing it. Obviously Pulev isnt as his mando but after that he will have the winner of Parker/Whyte then looking at Wilder if he is a big name then or Fury if he is fit and ready (doubtful).

I agree that i dont think thats how it shuld work, but unfortunately it does. Money makes the world go round and its no different in boxing. Shame, because i want AJ v Wilder, the winner fighting for the other strap, then defending against the best in the world. Dont care if they lose, they fight the best and gave their best, thats what its about for fans imo. But its money, and when you can make 15 mil for a fight against fighter A or 8 mil against ighter B they will pick Fighter A.

 

They are, its inevitable Wilder and Joshua will meet and i hope its a cracking fight. It will have been long in the making and its what the fans deserve to see. But despite what me, you and any other fans want it wont be until Wilder brings what Hearn and AJ want to the table. And its disappointing, because everyone would loe to see it rather than Pulev or even the Wlad rematch. I cant see Wlad being anywhere near as "obsessed" as he was the first time and i think this will just be a final payday for him, could be wrong but for me its a nothing fight except money and the fact its contractual.
Who would have thought we would find some common ground on Wilder an AJ lol

 

How would you feel about Wilder fighting Bellew?
I cant see it really tbh but...
The Whyte fight is gone, Wilder now has his mando and Bellew is likely rematching Haye from what ive seen today.
After that, Wilder v Bellew (assuming Bellew beats Haye again, which with Hayes injuries i can see happening). Either in the UK or the US on a big bill. Good money for both guys, Bellew can sell a fight, will do decent money if in the UK for PPV as well especially if Bellew does beat Haye again.
If Wilder goes in there and tears Bellew apart and KO's him convincingly then that would set up the Joshua fight as well. Then theoretically you have AJ vs Parker or Wilder next. Or Parker vs Wilder, winner fights AJ for all the marbles.
All hypothetical i know, but it would be some 2018 to have Wilder dismantle Bellew, Joshua beats his mando, Parker beats Whyte, Wilder beats Parker... Wilder vs AJ late next year. the numbers would be astronomical.

 

I doubt Parker will get past Hughie to be honest so can see Bong quite keen to unify with the lesser of 2 Furies after he's reburried the corpse of Stiverne. Bellew won't beat a fully fit Haye but, as already stated, a fully fit Haye at this point in his career is very doubtful. I have no worries about Joshua fighting Bong as AJ is technically, vastly superior, has a significant size advantage, better pedigree inspite of having only half the pro fights and has enough power to render Bong unconscious. Hopefully Bong can get past the corpse of Sriverne, beat Hughie ( not a foregone conclusion by any stretch), increase his profile after beating Bellew (can actually see this happening) and then unify against AJ. That would all be worthwhile for everyone concerned and I would take Bong far more seriously in a match against AJ.....here's hoping.

 

Whoever he fights next won't be a top 10 heavyweight.
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Their competition may be "similar" - although I would argue Wilder fought worse stiffs, some of the worst I've ever seen a touted fighter face - but even if one says the competition is similar, the difference is is that Wilder has been a pro for nearly 9 years, and fought complete tomato cans for five of those years. Guys Joshua was done with in a year or two. THAT's the difference. And the guys Wilder has faced since winning a belt, while better than say Dustin Nichols or Harold Sconiers, are hardly top HWs.

And there is a reason for this LONG period of facing mediocrities that Wilder has had - his management knows that he can't take a punch and doesn't have much ability.

 

I can't believe there are still Wilder supporters on here. At least be objective. The guy has fought 5 voluntaries and none have been against legit top 10 opposition. He's not getting the Joshua fight next, he is likely going to have to face his mandatory Stiverne (another bs fight) then get in line for the Joshua payday assuming Joshua gets by Wlad again.
Joshua has a lot of big money options and Wilder doesn't. I actually believe Wilder can beat Whyte or Chisora or Haye at this point in Haye's career. He should fight 1 of them to increase his exposure and maybe get Joshua at the end of 2018.
It will continue his run of sub par defenses for a belt holder but if he's looking for the cash out it's the way to go. The guy isn't a big star in America he doesn't sell, so he has to do what he can and be ok waiting and being the B side.