Deontay Wilder to return in April - Opponent will be announced this Saturday

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  1. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    It’s all a conspiracy for the golden boy wilder.
     
  2. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Now you're getting it
     
  3. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ;) Exactly. If you REMOVE names and CHANGE results ... he has no wins. :rolleyes:

    And if the referee in Munguia-Surace refereed the first and third Fury fights, Wilder would be 2-1 against Fury, with a KO 12 and and KO4 win and he takes the series.

    But it doesn't work like that.

    Wilder fought a gauntlet of tough fights over the last six years and nine fights:
    * Luis Ortiz (28-0) WBC #3 contender
    * Tyson Fury (27-0) WBC #2 contender
    * Dominic Breazeale (20-1) WBC Mandatory Contender
    * Luis Ortiz (31-1) WBC #3 contender
    * Tyson Fury (29-0-1) WBC #1 contender
    * Tyson Fury (30-0-1) WBC/Ring Heavyweight Champion
    * Robert Helenius (31-3) WBA #2 contender
    * Joseph Parker (33-3) WBO #3 contender
    * Zhilei Zhang (26-2-1) WBO #3 contender

    ... and his haters were too busy going back a decade saying look who he used to fight and "if you change this result" and "take these people off" look at his record.

    Why are they wasting their time?

    While they were bashing his competition, everyone else at the top of the division was taking the odd journeyman no-name here and there and none of them were batting an eye.

    Wilder has consistently fought better competition than most for YEARS. Did he win them all? No. So what? (Fighters shouldn't be afraid of a loss here and there, that's always what fans say. So why is it different when Wilder loses?)

    He is now pushing 40, is unranked, old, has no belt and no one he has to face ... and is coming off shoulder surgery (which is brutal, for anyone who has done it).

    If he wants to test his ability to still fight, he can take on anyone he wants.

    Or maybe he should just take on the journeymen Michael Hunter and Murat Gassiev have been fighting as of late, to get the top 10 rankings they got. None of you complained about them.

    Bring on Christian Larrondo Garcia! :rolleyes:
     
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  4. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    Your posts are good sir
     
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  5. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree. Wilder certainly gives us entertainment, and he's got heart. Once Fury prised the belt from him, he gave us some good match-ups. Unfortunately, he didn't do so well each time he left his PBC in-house circuit.

    Oldtiz 1 (PBC) - Wilder gets beaten up, but doctor interference saves Wilder, and he stops the 38-year-old (Cuban years).
    Fury (not PBC) - cherry picks Fury and gets outboxed, badly. Sadly for Wilder, the referee follows the rules in round 12. Luckily for Wilder, the judges commit day light robbery on the cards.
    Breazeale (PBC) - WBC lets Wilder choose Breazeale as his next mandatory instead of Whyte. Wilder stops Breazeale in a round. Go figure.
    Oldtiz 2 (PBC) - An even older Ortiz is winning every round, yet the referee doesn't give him a chance to beat the full count the first time he is dropped with the round ended in a world title fight. Admittedly Wilder did catch him with a bomb; in replay you could see a shower of Just For Men leaving Ortiz's nappa.
    Fury 2 (not PBC) - gets demolished
    Fury 3 (not PBC) - gets a prolonged beat down and stopped.
    Helenius (PBC) - another PBC patsy, takes an unconvincing dive in round 1.
    Parker (not PBC) - gets badly outboxed
    Old man Zhang (not PBC) - gets destroyed.

    Anyway, he deserves an easy touch. It's just cruel wanting to keep watching him get beaten up on the DAZN circuit, by the young and old.
     
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  6. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    All this nonsense of "cherry picks" and "dives" is tired. You can't give him one compliment without couching it in some built-in excuse or insult. Not one. No credit. Zero credit for anything.

    We've been over this a thousand times. None of it sticks.

    Wilder fought Fury three times. If they didn't know who Fury was the first time, they sure as hell did the other two times. And Fury wasn't 300 pounds when he fought Wilder any time. EVER. So why do you guys act like he was?

    Wilder floored Fury four times total. Fury was OUT on the way down in the 12th in fight one. Fury admitted it. Wilder said he saw Fury's eyes roll back in his head on the way down, and that's why he started celebrating, because he knew he was out. And Fury said hitting his head on the floor 'woke him up.'

    Regardless, it was Wilder's eighth successful title defense. People never include it on Wilder's list of WINS, but Wilder walked out of the ring the champion, having scored all the knockdowns, having successfully defended his title, and he made two more successful defenses before giving Fury a REMATCH.

    Yet you guys BASH Wilder for actually giving Fury a rematch. (Which makes no sense.) Once everyone knew what he was, Wilder still fought him. Took him to court to fight him a third time, in fact.

    Instead of appreciating that, you have to come up with more excuses to bash him for fighting Fury three times (because your cherry pick excuse falls flat if you don't). So you guys bash him for not waiting around for Joshua to regain his titles from Andy Ruiz.

    Fury was on the floor twice in the fourth in their third fight. It was the Fight of the Year that year. An all-time classic. (As was their first.) Why didn't you mention that in all your descriptions? Because that would mean it was a great performance?

    Fury said afterward he got BRAIN DAMAGE in the third fight. He was hurt bad. Fury was on the deck longer than someone like Muguia recently was in the first and third fights. Nobody complains about that Munguia stoppage.

    But you can't quit complaining about Wilder's stoppages. If Fury was on the floor a long time, so what ... it's up to the ref. But the ref robbed Ortiz. And if they stayed down, it must've been a fix. Excuse. Excuse. Excuse.

    And when he takes on contenders on winning streaks after he suffered two brutal KO loses, you mock him for losing or claim when he won it was a dive. :pipi

    There's something wrong with all of you. Seriously. You guys are like jackals. Even when he is out of the picture, you start thread after thread to make the same insults over and over.

    Wilder won the title 10 years ago. Lost it five years ago.

    Along the way, he:
    * Had one of the top 10 longest reigns in heavyweight history.
    * Top 5 most consecutive defenses.
    * Defended the title 11 times in five years, 10 times successfully, including against Fury.
    * Finished 10-2-1 in 13 heavyweight title fights
    * Was involved in all-time classics.
    * Had one of the highest KO percentages of any heavyweight champ in history.
    * Was rated no lower than the top three Ring contender every month for eight straight years.

    (Go back and try to list all the guys in boxing history who were rated that highly for that long ... I dare you. Because there aren't any "frauds" on that list.)

    None of his current peers were rated that high at heavyweight for that long.

    Why? Because while you guys were claiming everything was a fix, or a dive, or cherry picking or whining, or sticking up for those who got suspended for taking PEDs to try to beat him, he was fighting competition like the names I listed above.

    And scoring double-digit knockdowns, engaging in wars, winning, losing and putting together reels of film fans are going to be watching highlights of as long as this sport exists.

    Long after this site and your constant insults are gone.

    There's a whole generation of new heavyweights on the rise, and you guys want to spew the same hateful crap over and over and over and over again. I'm out.

    That's my last post on the topic.
     
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  7. bandeedo

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    :lol:
    the (Cuban years), and the "shower of Just For Men" had me rolling.
     
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  8. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    Bravo.
     
  9. Manning

    Manning Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This fight is about as sexy as jacking off into a sock.
     
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  10. lufcrazy

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    The Wilder disparaging is worse than ever.

    Whilst he was at the top I agreed with lots of the criticism levied at him.

    But in the current context now, his last 9 fights have consistently been at a high level, and I genuinely can't get over people pretending he was never one of the top 3 heavyweights.

    I've always found your viewpoints about Wilder extreme, but i now find the current narrative even more extreme in the opposite direction.

    It's like people are still obsessed with his run of fights against Arreola, Washington and Stiverne 2. From 2018 onwards you can't knock his opposition really. And that's a 7 year stretch.

    I had someone yesterday telling me that he wasn't ever in the top 5, it's all a bit strange.
     
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  11. MaccaveliMacc

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    Kurtis Harper - it's official.
     
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  12. FrankinDallas

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    Well done, sir. Puts Fury's record to shame.
     
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  13. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I mean if you can't have a laugh at Windmill's expense, there is something very wrong :lol:

    You'll be back. Just as the Sun rises in the East and sets in the West, @Dubblechin will WhiteKnight for Wilder
     
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  14. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I honestly don't mind Curtis Harper. Sometimes you just have to get back on the winning track, and if he was legit injured, then he needs to test the injury.
     
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  15. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think we found our event name!