Deontay Wilder under Emanuel Steward

Wilder ***The Olympian***:

• Bye
• Defeated Abdelaziz Toulbini (Algeria) 10:4
• Defeated (via countback) Mohamed Arjaoui (Morocco) +10:10
• Lost to Clemente Russo (Italy) 1:7

yes, he was the best US amateur heavy, but as we can see, at the time that was only really as good as the best Moroccan

 

Honestly, I don't think you could be more wrong.

Emanuel Steward literally opened a gym in a neighborhood, signed up some neighborhood "children" who lived within blocks of each other - like Tommy Hearns, Jimmy Paul, Milton McCrory, Duane Thomas, Leeonzer Barber - and guided them through the amateur ranks, on to the pro ranks and to World Titles.

Do you know how ridiculously long the odds would be to do that with just "one" neighborhood kid? And that's not counting all the neighborhood kids who turned pro and became ranked contenders (like Oba Carr).

It was just a local gym like in any town. But the kids training their were becoming so well known for their boxing accomplishments that amateur and professional boxers (Hilmer Kenty and Gerald McClellan) started gravitating to there. Hell, Michael Moorer lived in Steward's home when he was an amateur and young pro.

In fact, taking kids who never boxed before and turning them into professional champions is literally what he was known for early on.

Steward didn't become a "gun for hire" if you will for other professionals until much, much, MUCH later in his career.

 

Wilder beat Chakhkiev in Russia 6 months prior, who won gold in Beijing and silver in the World Championships the year prior.

 

I've been to the timeline where Deontay Wilder reigns under the tutelage of Emmanual Steward

The skies are always dark. fog from dusk to dawn as superheated steam from the energy he generates vaporizes the earths atmospheric air. Some of us managed to escape underground and form survival cells, others weren't so lucky. There are stories of a man capable of bringing his destruction of this planet to an end but right now we can only pray.

 

Surely you can see Wilder’s resume is very poor, apart from Fury & old man Ortiz.
It is widely recognised he has limited skills. He rarely, almost never uses the jab (any boxer’s basic fundamental). He tried it against Fury’s massive midriff in their 3rd fight, then ditched it very quickly.
He has dynamite in his right, even that is crude more often than not. He has a big heart & bravery, as he proved against Fury.
I admire anyone that steps into a boxing ring, but even so, Wilder is very limited. In my opinion

 

Wilder wouldn't listen and Stewart would ditch him.

 

Wilder has a good jab.

In fact, he won the National Golden Gloves, the US Amateur Championship, the Olympic Trials and made it to the semifinals of the Olympics winning decisions, not scoring knockouts. He also won the WBC title with basically the jab because he broke his right hand early when he floored Stiverne (and Bermane drug them both to the floor). Ironically, for one of the hardest punchers in heavyweight history, every major championship he won as an amateur or pro has come via decision.

And you bring up the third Fury fight, but in the first Fury fight, the fight where Fury played the BOXER ... Fury only landed six more jabs than Wilder did. And most of those labeled as jabs that Wilder threw were just range finders.

He primarily uses the left these days as either a range finder or to blind his opponent to the right hand coming immediately behind it. Many of the one-punch KOs attributed to Wilder are actually combinations, but many people (particularly those who say he doesn't have one) don't see the left because he throws it so quickly and the right comes so fast behind it.

 

That’s a well written post. You obviously have followed his career.
What are your thoughts on his record as a professional though ?
He hasn’t exactly fought the best throughout most of it seems to many.

 

When you are wrong you are wrong.

 

He would never beat Fury anyways so I doubt it would have made much difference. He's the type of guy that just needs to try to land a bomb and to show up in shape which to his credit he always does. For all the flack he gets here would anyone actually favor any fighter besides Fury and Usyk over him?

 

He did possess some of the attributes that Steward looked for in a "project", but I don't think a working relationship would have lasted tbh.

 

That's a great question.
Although Fury is streets ahead, Wilder had him down 4/5 times & was close to a KO in fight 1.
Wilder has a puncher's chance against everyone.
Usyk is probably too skilled to get hit by a big, telegraphed right.
However, anyone taking a leaf out of Fury's book & forcing Wilder backwards would stand a chance. He does struggle under pressure.

 

Which is why the question would be better if Wilder and Manny would work from the beggining and form the type of relationship where Wilder would learn,listen and apply instead of the usual hired gun approach during maturity.

 

He wouldve been the GOAT combination of windmills and twerking

 

Well, that would be interesting. Emanuel Steward makes a boxer an even better boxer. I believe that Wilder would have more than just a "nuclear right hand" in that case.