Deontay Wilder under Emanuel Steward

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  1. mrbigshot

    mrbigshot Active Member Full Member

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    So you say wilder would loose against you ?

    Seriously : there are many many amateurs in boxing clubs around the world , not so many who rise to olympic boxers representing their country and worldwide just a few who go thru the professional hw division to a world title and defend the belt several times .

    Any argue that wilder 'lacks fundamental boxing skills' or 'has a poor resume' - is a bit funny and not worth any debate ...
     
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  2. guncho

    guncho next champion! Full Member

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    What if Andy had grown up with tutelage of Cus Damato?
     
  3. BELLERS

    BELLERS Active Member Full Member

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    Wilder has a poor record as he has fought mainly poor opponents. My opinion, probably many would agree.
    He has a powerful right hand, heart & bravery.
    What would you suggest are his standout boxing skills ?
     
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  4. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Favoring only Fury & Usyk over him says more about the lack of talent in the HW division than it does Wilder's ability.
     
  5. mrbigshot

    mrbigshot Active Member Full Member

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    To put it generally : his boxing skills , combined with his power were good enough to become wbc world champion between 2015-2020 .

    He fought every available oponent which was entitled to be the challanger for a world title fight at that time - also not an amateur boxers i guess .

    you can say that for a person like him- standing on top5 of the world ranking - other also top5 boxers have even better skills and he compensates this with sheer power.
    Right , but its just his style and it gave him great overall success.

    saying that 'he cannot box' so somehow pointing many kirme's boxers outperform him in boxing fundamentals is imho pure nonsense .
     
  6. im sparticus

    im sparticus There Ye Go. Full Member

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    That's about the same as most hw paths in the Olympics.
    also he was involved in other international bouts other than the olympics.
    look im not saying hes got s-level skills but to say wilder has no skill at all or no technique is just not true
     
  7. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    You think like Thomas "Hitman" Hearns? Well, if he started with Steward immediately after his amateur career, such a scenario is not excluded. Although I think technically Wilder would never be like Hearns. But in any case, they would be watching a better boxer, Wilder, than we are watching him today.
     
  8. Cally

    Cally Sand...sand... nothing but sand! Full Member

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    He never would have had the grab game for it with his poor core strength.
     
  9. deyell

    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

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    No difference. Wilder has no natural talent for the sport. He has athletic talent, but has no feel for boxing.
     
  10. BCS8

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    He'd have lasted about half an hour before Steward told him to bugger off because he wasn't listening or before wilder got angry with Steward for telling him what to do
     
  11. BCS8

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    And if I'd read the second comment I'd not have wasted my time typing
     
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  12. BELLERS

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    You are obviously a massive Wilder fanboy.
    Therefore you will never see any weakness in him, or that he remained champion for so long by knocking out tin cans.
    Once he stepped up (Fury) ,his limitations were highlighted.
    I admire his heart & bravery, but Fury physically & mentally destroyed him.
     
  13. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Did Malik Scott post the Deontay vid on OF yet?
     
  14. Ted Stickles

    Ted Stickles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Wilder had come up under Stewards guidance he would have been the Hearns of the heavyweight division. Say what you want but Wilder has a decent beard and with a better boxing skill set and the knowledge he would have gotten with Steward, I think the Fury fights might have been a different story. But for what Wilder has worked with he did amazingly well in his career.
     
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  15. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In case you missed it, Wilder was deemed untrainable by his former trainer. Steward wouldve walked off from this clown