Deontay Wilder v James Jeffries

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  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    15 rounds.

    The first true athlete to hold the heavyweight strap versus the guy Fleisher ranked as the #2 ALL TIME heavyweight.

    Who wins this one and how?
     
  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    It's a tough one with the limited footage available.
     
  3. edward morbius

    edward morbius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "The first true athlete"

    Oh my. What is your definition of an athlete?
     
  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I think Jeffries can be considered an athlete, he was fast afoot. Not the most skilled boxer perhaps but probably the first precursor of the "modern heavies"?
     
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  5. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Could he have played in the NBA or NFL?

    If not, he was not an athlete.
     
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  6. reznick

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    Like Muggsy Bouges?
     
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  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I defer to greater knowledge .
     
  8. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I am deferring to the knowledge I have gained on this forum.
     
  9. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Undefeated until dragged back into retirement.
    Bit of an unknown here, but I would bet my luck with Jeffries.

    Whats most likely to happen is he wins with heart and toughness.
    A guy with Jeffries physical assets who grew up in a less forgiving world 100 years ago is dangerous.
     
  10. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I generally agree with what you write but Wilder can whack and Jeffries seemed to take shots in order to deliver them in return
     
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  11. reznick

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    Yeah. It's hard to say what Jeffries could do with his power, but if testimonials are right, he could whack.
    And if he could indeed whack, I wonder how Wilder would take his attack?

    Wilder can bang. He's got a wicked punch. He could put Jeffries out against his own volition. That right on Spilzka was disgusting. He's got that going for him.
    Jeffries is from another era culturally. Where living a more physical and violent life was more normal than it is today. The mentality was different. Wilder is a tough dude, and has that warrior spirit, but Jeffries probably had it in spades. And that stuff matters when you're trading firepower.
     
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  12. mostobviousalt

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    The world was more physical 100 years ago because most were suffering some form of lead poisoning.
     
  13. Mendoza

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    I think he could have been a good NFL player. He had the size,speed, strength and toughness. Pretty nimble on his feet.

    Wilder doesn't see round six. He's a protected fraud of a champion beating non top ten guys and sometimes getting exposed in victory.

    Those long light and tall types usually do not take a good body shot. Jeffries was a tremendous body puncher.
     
  14. janitor

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    I will need to see a lot more from Wilder before I can make him the favourite here.
     
  15. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    You can see pretty much all of him in his shorts.