Deontay Wilder versus Rocky Marciano

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  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I will take this onerous task upon myself.

    How do you see this one playing out, old-timer, hardworking, lunchpail hauling, hard-hat wearing stalwart versus modern power punching, athletic, supergiant phenom?

    15 rounds, 1950's ref.
     
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  2. Jeff Lantz

    Jeff Lantz Retired sandman Full Member

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  3. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    you might as well have just gone into a church and say that god doesn't exist. :) sacrilege, i dare you think a 6'7", 220 lb fighter have any chance vs the 5'11", 185 lb marciano.
     
  4. Stallion

    Stallion Son of Rome Full Member

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    Good point. :)
     
  5. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No....a nobody and never has or was against one of boxings all time greats.
     
  6. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Wilder has a glass jaw ( dating back from his amateur days ), and has been down and hurt by journeyman as a professional.


    I give his management team a lot of credit for taking the fight with Laichovich. These days beating an Eastern Euro champions means something, even if he was washed up and in a dive as Laichovich ( too lazy to check the spelling on his name now )


    Once Wilder steps up in class vs a fighter who does not have a losing record in his last 5 matches, and has achieved a current top 25 status, he's getting stopped.

    Marciano via KO here, inside 6 rounds.
     
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  7. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Way to let a guy's career play out before you make your grandiose judgements from on high.
     
  8. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Wilder faced tougher comp through there early fights.
     
  9. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He has done and shown nothing yet so your putting a nobody in the ring with a proven ATG.
     
  10. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    who has wilder beaten in 29 pro fights whose better than roland lastarza?
     
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  11. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Who is Roland Lastarza better than?
     
  12. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Wilders last two opponents had already had any punch resistance punched out of them before he met them and who did he fight before?

    Look, I like that Deontay is at least fit for his height. Its refreshing that he doesn't need to be 280lb just because hes over 6'3", it means he should develop into that rare thing at heavyweight a contender with sharpness and pace but so far all we can expect wilder to be is a contender.

    Sharpness and pace was not a rare thing even 30 years ago. In the golden age sharpness and pace was so prolific in the division that all heavyweights had to boil down like track and feild athletes just to get out of the club circuit.

    The heavyweights have been been so bloated with artificial weight for so long now that the need to be fast and sharp has almost been entirely erased. Modern training techniques were only ever suposed to enhance traditional core boxing skills developed over generations of actual competition. It was never suposed to engulf or replace the traditional stuff.

    I have heard all the bull**** about about heavyweights bulking up without losing speed, accuracy and workrate but I HAVE NEVER SEEN IT. Where are the 260 pounders with lightning combinations (or even combinations in general) pin point accuracy and breathtaking workrate? I have however, seen hugg-a-thons and long range robotic neutralizing a plenty and its not an improvement.

    Lets wait and see how Wilders career pans out. Lets hope he stays athletic and can improve enough to become a good heavyweight worthy of comparisons with great chamoions. Lord knows the heavyweights need it.
     
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  13. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Wilder is all hype. He has to have a glass chin the way his handlers are protecting him.
     
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  14. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    This fact will not stop us from getting to 100 pages.
     
  15. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You don't think, the relatively low weight of the heavyweights during Marciano's reign had something to do with the fact, that they were naturally small men - rather than an effort to "boil down" to as low a weight as possible? I mean, in Rocky's 7 title fights he never faced an opponent taller than 6'0" - so it's hardly surprising, that they didn't weigh in as heavy as the 6'3" to 6'6" guys we often see today.
     
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