Deontay Wilder vs 2017 Wladimir Klitschko

We’ve already seen Wlad vs Wilder

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I want a Wilder-AJ fight so bad.

Both guys would make so much $$$$, much more than the Fury-Usyk chessmatch...

It's what we want to see. Bombs.

 

Either a Wlad decision or a Wilder KO.
Wlad would not expose himself. It would be all hit and hold. Stay inside, Wilder can't windmill inside.
Wilder would try to land a right, period. One right would K Wlad TFO.

 

Only way Wilder beats any kind of Wlad is LUCK.

 

Klitschko knocks chinny Wilder spark out

 

The fact that wilders team said he was a baby and not ready to unify despite being a world champion says it all.

 

Of course not

 

Wlad by KO late

 

I like Wlad by knockout.

 

2017 Wlad had been inactive for 2 years and got dropped by a limited 18-0 Anthony Joshua.

Wlad was so dominant in his reign at the top in the late 2000s and early 2010s because he could bully smaller fighters and keep them away from his glass chin

Deontay Wilder has the height and reach on Wlad, the balls to commit to throwing power punches, he would have found Wlad’s weak chin with inevitability

At any point up to and including 2015, Wlad would have won via KO no doubt, but 2017 Wilder KOs 2017 Wlad.

 

There's still this ideological narrative that AJ (even the green version of AJ who fought a 41 year old, 17 months inactive, winless in 2 years, dethroned Wlad in his final fight) is better than prime Wilder but there isn't good evidence for this.

Wilder has most of the advantages over AJ: power, speed, reflexes, agility, height, reach, stamina, durability, patience, focus, composure, confidence, heart, determination, hunger, fighting instincts, ferocity, fear factor, experience, unconventionality, unpredictability and ease of underestimation. AJ's extra 20 lbs, superior fundamentals, balance and co-ordination do not compensate for this. Even the gap in boxing ability is overstated: AJ did nothing on the backfoot against a 284 lbs untrained Ruiz that Wilder hadn't done better nearly 5 years prior against Stiverne in his first big step up fight.

After AJ lost to 25-1 underdog Andy Ruiz in one of the biggest upsets in heavyweight history there was a massive propaganda effort to discredit Wilder and Fury to compensate for AJ's failure. After Wilder lost to Fury there was the idea that Wilder was badly exposed against the No.1 ranked heavyweight on the planet who had beaten active champion Wlad in Germany with ease years prior, whereas AJ had a little forgivable hiccup when he was battered from pillar to post in his U.S. debut by a virtually unknown fringe contender.

 

I agree with nearly all of that except I believe Wilder would be a live underdog against even the best Wlad. There was a conspicuous absence of healthy, fit punchers in Wlad's 2nd reign, with the only guys fitting the bill being Haye (who was more interested in getting a big payday and surviving than trying to win and risking a KO loss) and Povetkin (who was grabbed and leaned on to death and unfortunately has the fighting temperament of Joseph Parker). Both were small too, whereas Wilder would have height, reach, massive power, speed and a lot of mental and physical toughness. There was a period in Wlad's career (the seven fights from Sanders to Peter 1) where Wlad was regularly facing punchers and he was dropped ten times in four fights, losing twice. And none of those fighters were as dangerous as Wilder.

 

I think this fight goes similar to Wilder Ortiz and Wilder Fury 1, Bitchko out boxes Wilder for 8 to 10 rounds but eventually gets caught and KOd.

Peak Bitchko wins in a wide UD, but In 2017 Vlad's reflexes had slowed a lot and he could not avoid Wilders bomb for 12 rounds.

Any version of Shitali Bitchko beats Wilder though, but that's a different ballgame althogether.