Deontay Wilder vs Andy Ruiz in July

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Chuck Norris, Apr 4, 2023.


  1. serioussam

    serioussam Active Member Full Member

    769
    941
    Oct 14, 2021
    I just see Majin Boo by Decision or Wilder by KO. We know Boo's chin is good, so I doubt Wilder gonna crack it. I mean, who has Wilder KOed with a similar chin
     
    goku23 and ikrasevic like this.
  2. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,373
    6,926
    Feb 5, 2016
    Wilder KO6
     
  3. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

    47,857
    27,809
    Oct 23, 2011
    This content is protected


    Carbon copy's.
     
    goku23, box33 and MarkusFlorez99 like this.
  4. Ilesey

    Ilesey ~ Full Member

    38,201
    2,600
    Jul 22, 2004
    Horrible match up for Ruiz.

    Wilder by stoppage.
     
  5. 007 373 5963

    007 373 5963 Active Member Full Member

    944
    1,718
    May 30, 2020
    Ruiz's corner throws in the napkin inside of 6.
     
  6. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

    6,836
    4,732
    Aug 5, 2007
    I'll take Ruiz on the cards in an ugly fight. Ruiz catches Wilder early with something that hurts him, and he will have Fury flashbacks. I think we see an old and degraded Wilder, and a fresher Ruiz.
     
    spravedlivylev likes this.
  7. Howitzer1888

    Howitzer1888 Active Member Full Member

    981
    795
    Jun 7, 2017
    Wilder struggles for a few rounds before knocking Ruiz out with a massive right hand, like many of his previous fights.
     
  8. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,613
    3,076
    Aug 26, 2020
    I usually favor the better boxer in these scenarios, but there are so many questions in this fight, particularly in relation to Ruiz. Is Ruiz's skill level superior enough to Wilder's to pull it off? Does his excellent chin combined with the skills advantage give him the edge in a distance fight? I know lots are picking Wilder via KO (and for good reason - he obviously hits like a truck), but what if it goes to decision - does this improve Ruiz's chances for victory? Will Ruiz come in some sort of semblance of shape?
     
  9. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,613
    3,076
    Aug 26, 2020
    ROFL
     
  10. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

    29,202
    18,617
    Jul 19, 2004
    I am leaning toward Fat boy shocking the world again.
     
    Sheikh and spravedlivylev like this.
  11. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

    27,177
    28,514
    Sep 19, 2012
    I can see Ruiz causing a lot of problems for Wilder and potentially causing an upset. I think being more short and squat favors Ruiz a bit as he is not stiff and upright like Helenius. I think back to the Wilder Szpilka fight Szpilka seemed to be a harder target for Wilder to hit cleanly before he timed beautifully in the 9th round. Ruiz is much more skilled and I think he will try and bring the fight on the inside try to land looping over hand rights and left hooks. Ruiz won't be a sitting duck for Wilder's straight right hand. I think that the danger for Ruiz will be Wilder's uppercut like how he dropped Ortiz in the first fight. Either way I think it will be a good match up and I can see both guys potentially getting hurt throughout the coarse of the fight however long it goes. Wilder is the rightful favorite but I think it will be a tough fight for both guys.
     
  12. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

    7,226
    7,699
    Nov 3, 2021
    Great fight. Real ace champion vs real ace champion. I don't see Berman Stiverne as a real ace champion. It's an opportunity to see where both boxers are really at right now. IMO Wilder wins by knockout (unless he breaks his arm again). There's no way Wilder will win this fight on points, so I'm predicting a knockout halfway through the fight.
     
  13. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    14,002
    6,964
    Sep 5, 2010
    The operative word is "tentativo".
     
  14. blackfella96

    blackfella96 Active Member Full Member

    573
    689
    Jul 10, 2019
    Wouldn't be surprised if Ruiz could catch Wilder here, despite fighting at range almost exclusively, the minute Wilder rocks someone he rushes them quickly. Should be a fun fight to watch though, wonder if Ruiz's chin will hold up
     
  15. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

    1,636
    3,298
    Nov 17, 2022
    It's understandable that you big Wilder up - it's your pro-Fury angle. Of course you'd do that.

    But there's a reason why Wilder has always been a protected champion with a **** resume. In forty-something fights, apart from Fury, the ONLY notable fighter he fought is an ancient Ortiz. He hasn't faced anyone else half-decent. What does that tell you? And no, it's not that others don't want to fight him. It was Wilder who didn't want the smoke against Joshua. He turned down 100 million USD to NOT fight AJ.

    Besides, there is a common misconception about Wilder's punching power. He might be the biggest puncher of all time (we can't know that for sure, I mean - how does he compare to Shavers or Foreman, who or what can decide that exactly?), but people think Wilder touches you just once, lays just one glove on you and you are in the shadow realm. That's not the case at all, of course. If it was, he'd have nothing but 1st or no later than 2nd round stoppages only on his resume.

    While in reality, plenty of journeymen danced with him for far longer. Wilder needed 5 rounds against Washington, 8 against Arreola, 9 against Szpilka, 11 against Duhaupas, 9 against Molina etc. He couldn't knock a Stiverne out.

    I mean, sure, if you want to look at his pre-2010 record when he was fighting 4-6 round bouts in dingy clubs, with fighters recruited from God knows where, you have those 1st round knockouts by the bucket. But is anyone out there who thinks that a Stiverne can avoid getting hit by him for 12 rounds, but a Ruiz won't? Is there anyone out there who thinks a Szpilka caused massive problems for him for 11 rounds, but a Ruiz won't cause problems and won't go the distance? Wilder is slow on his feet and telegraphs his punches so obviously that you can predict them coming even as a spectator watching the fight from home.

    The reason Fury fought against Wilder again and again and again is because he knows Wilder is a joke as a boxer. He knows he can beat Wilder with one hand tied behind his back. Wilder would have absolutely no chance against the top guys of the division (Usyk, Fury, Joshua, Ruiz, Joyce).
     
    kriszhao and Wizbit1013 like this.