Deontay Wilder vs Gerald Washington (first top #20 opponent in over 2 years) who wins?

Like David Allen being equal to Wlad Klitchko in skill level right?

 

Stiverne was top 10 for SHORT period like Takam ,both aren't actually relevant in the HW division ,and both have watered down careers in the decade they have been fighting. No one who actually knows boxing thinks Washington is top 10 when all other sanctioning bodies are included,but he is 6'6 and 245 which means its Wilders biggest opponent with some skill.

Washington is a level below Breazeale ,who is fighting against a better skilled guy actually in Izu ,but not as seasoned as Wilder. To me that's the main event and a better fight, bc i could see Breazeale winning that fight. Washington shouldnt be able to beat wilder but hes going up against the chinnier guy?I see Wilder k.o win late but ,washington should push wilder where others couldnt in terms of holding his own physically,he has wilder by 25 pounds about.

 

Fair enough Ive seen two fights by Washington, the Mansour and Chambers fight. I can't lie after the 3 round knockout of Wawryzk by Povetkin I gave up on this dude. I I think your getting caught up on my usage of the word 'decent' lol it was more to say it isn't the worst pick, when you consider the only other options were Miller and Rudenko.

Washington really is nothing special, I don't think he has a legit fighters heart, when Mansour put on him he didn't know what to do and I expect Deontay to make light work of him if the injury is healed properly. But what Washington does bring is big muscular frame, back foot movement, a jab which can keep you in range. That's a style deontay wont be used and can help him progress in the future.

 

I was just joking, jesus.

 

Everyone so hyped by this opponent. I just dont f/n get it.
Sure he's big. But he's also lumbering.

He looked afraid to fully engage Eddie Chambers ffs.

Unless Washington goes full throttle for the KO early, which in reality is the best path to victory vs Wilder, he's gonna find his decent jab not landing before Wilders quick slapping left hook, which oftentimes puts opposition on the defensive.

Szpilka gave an outstanding performance v Wilder b/c he's fearless. We learned from the McCline fight that while he indeed has a GLASS JAW, he's got a bigger heart than a blue whale. And he went after Wilder without fear of his glass getting shattered cause he KNEW his heart could overcome anything KDs that didnt put him to sleep.

Does Washington have that kindof heart. Not in my estimation. Hes fought far too conservatively vs the likes of Aguilera, Monsour, Gavern, and Chambers, choosing to try to use his long jab and cross to keep them outside.

He could have gotten any and all of them outta there by simply closing the distance and putting them on the ropes and letting combinations fly.

Perhaps he's just a smart fighter, utilizing his best assets to ensure victory. But little Monsour managed to outpoint him in many ppls opinion(I had Washington winning by a rd) but it was Monsours agression that Washinton struggled with, and Wilder, can fight both poised, and aggressive, and sometimes, his WILDNESS, very well may be lack of self control, but it could also be a mind game, knowing theres nothing coming back, and putting fear into his opponent that that wild R hand might put them into a Liakovich like seizure.

Not Wilders biggest fan, but el Gallo Negro just aint the guy imo. Too cautious, and when Wilder finds a home for that R hand, he'll have little trouble cutting the ring against a lumbering oaf, and when he does, HE WINS BY CLEAN KO.

Think I just summarized your lengthy post.

 

His W over Grano(KO Kauffman, Browne for {All Americas HW title}, Alexander, Minto, Williamson), and Williamson gave him a WBC ranking, but didnt get him into the concensus top 20 for the majority of us. Top 30, sure, but not 20, but when he stopped Adamek, it was a career maker, since he was being brought in to give Adamek a W, and it backfired.

The W over Adamek combined with his earlier work, and the improvement of his CV based on his opponents v opponents v opponents raised his boxrec scored. Im sure he'll be dropping back out of the top 20 with his next humiliating KO.
Probably against Kauffman or BVern.

 

WRONG WRONG WRONG
Peter was the reigning WBC Champion having KOd Maskaev in a good fight, but with the expected result. I still have that fight on DVD, pulling for Maskaev but watching him take a horrible beating and only having his own powerful R hand to keep him in the fight.
Sosnowski had just won the EU title while pushing highly touted Pianeta to the limit previously ending in a draw. KOs over prime (in shape) Pucheta, Herelius, Tauasa, and Norris gave SOZ a top 5 WBC ranking.
Johnson was an undefeated American contender, with solid wins over Seldon, Smith and highly touted Devin Vargas. Wins over Wills, Davis, and King all solidified him as top rated WBC fighter.

Duhaupas doesnt win vs that version of KJ. AND I MIGHT BE Duhaupas biggest fan on this site. Aside from maybe ULTF.

 

Not as afraid as Wlad was who was pushing down on Eddies back every 20 seconds. Why was he even doing that against a tiny non aggressive guy with zero power. Chamber got so sick of it he picked Wlad up and tried to throw him on the ground.

http://www.boxnews.com.ua/photos/2095/Wladimir-Klitschko-Eddie-Chambers42.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/06/30/article-2010040-0CCE213000000578-927_634x422.jpg

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos...ifts-up-wladimir-klitschko-picture-id97911864

Wlad only got the stoppage cos Eddie was absolutely reckt from being pushed down all night.

Washington won every round against Chamber without a singe foul. His work was clean and he got the job done clinch free. His performance was better than Wlads. And remember Eddie was the big favourite to win.

Wilder is facing a guy who beat Wlads opponents better than Wlad himself. Not bad for Wilder , not bad at all.

 

LOL

 

Your'e am absolute IMBECILE.
Peter fought even with Wladimir Klitchko in his 25th fight, losing only on the cards by a pt or 2 at MOST.
Peter then proceeded to roided to the gills Toney back to back, then McCline in a war, and then Maskaev.

BVernos best wins are finishing off the cracked chin that Vitali started years before.

 

LMAO

 

Peter taking Wlad to the brink is exactly the reason why Wlad is ridiculously overrated.. Its not because Peter was good , he wasn't. He was awful.
Ffs James Toney handled Peters easier than Wlad did. Wlad wouldn't even have won without his octopus powers.

Chisora is better than Peter and thats based off efforts against the same opponents.

Takam can't boast the same credentials as Peter but he is a better boxer , yes? . Peter around today would be no bigger than Fred Kassi.

 

Wlad didnt have his OCTOPI POWERS then you moron.

And ROIDED TO THE GILLS TONEY lost. Wlad WON

And Peter fought a prime, in shape and not injured Helenius directly after Wlad destroyed him.

Chisora fought and narrowly defeated Helenius(yeah, IK, HeleniusW12), but Helenius was injured prefight, not allowed to spar for the fight due to the injury and thought since Fury easily beat an out of shape Chizzy, that he could handle him with his power in his L.
Chizzy showed up in the best shape of his career and gave his careers finest performance after surviving the first 2 rds.

 

Course he did. I showed you photographic evidence.

Toney was a 39 y/o battle worn over weight 160 pounder. He got stiffed in fight one. Peter clearly lost that fight. Tony out boxed him with his back against the ropes. Wlad had to run and hug to beat the band in order to survive.

Helenius looked like a bonafide ATG vs Peter. He made Wlads effort look like a total joke. Why couldn't Wlad blow Peter away as easily as Helenius did?
Hilly was fine going into the Chizzy fight. He was never the same after coming out of it.

Kalle Sauerland came straight out and said Chisora won on Buncey's boxing hour. Hilly barely won 3 rounds in that fight. Chizzy beat him from pillar to post. Peter didn't win a 10 seconds stretch against Hilly and got knocked dead quicker and more impressively in one go , Wlad needed two go's to stop Peter and it still took him longer and with even more clinches than the first time. Hilly never clinched ONCE.

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2010/09/steward-was-telling-wladimir-to-stop-clinching-peter/