I'll admit I made a mistake, I thought Johnson weighed in at more for the Burns fight, and I'll own it. Still more than twice the difference in weight, and 5 times the difference in height. Still a very very poor comparison and an obvious reach. Funny thing is it appears you knew it was considering your response. Dont make arguments in bad faith my dude. Most of Dempseys top opponents were considerably heavier than him. Most of Johnsons were considerably lighter. You dont have to like it, but that's called facts. Probably the same reason you quickly stopped defending almost all the journeymen you claimed were big and skilled earlier in the thread when confronted on their records. I never criticized Johnson for being bigger than Dempsey, don't strawman me. As for overall resumes, Dempsey's cleaning out of the HW division pre-title with such first round KOs as prime contender Fulton I would consider more impressive than a record predominated (not exclusively of course) with notably smaller or journeymen fighters. Lets stay on topic, clearly your plan of shifting the topic to Dempsey didn't work well. Martin was a journeyman with a poor record, beating and losing a green McVea doesn't amount to much, wins against Armstrong with a poor record, a small Childs and other guys beaten by lesser fighters in more impressive fashion just isn't relevant. Truth is, Martin had a poor record not even counting his past prime comeback. Didn't answer my question regarding Jeffries, not surprised.
For sure. I know that because of such views White Bomber is not a favorite on the forum, but I agree with him. I'm not downplaying Jack Johnson. I will just compare boxing and 100m sprint athletics. Jesse Owens Vs Usein Bolt. 10.3s Vs 9.59s Jesse Owens once did an incredible thing, but Usein Bolt runs faster.
I'm not so certain of that. Put the 2 of them on the same track, with the same shoes, same starting blocks, and give Jesse time to get used to the track, conditions, and shoes, and I believe you're going to have one heck of a close race on your hands, and you may need the photo to figure out who won. IMHO, of course.
This. The synthetic tracks that modern track athletes run on is a lot easier on the legs and helps performance as do the much lighter shoes. Also, they don’t even time races the same. Back when Owens was a track athlete they used stopwatches while today they use timing consoles.
At best Jesse Owens would run like Carl Lewis, not Usein Bolt. Because Nesta Carter couldn't run like Usein Bolt either.
1. It's Usain Bolt. 2. Less than 7/10 or 8/10 of a second (some sources say it was 10.2s) faster isn't anything to write home about.