Deontay Wilder vs Jack Johnson

My general reasons for picking Jack Johnson by Decision over Deontay Wilder, most times, are as follows:

1. When I do Fantasy fights, in my head, I reconstitute the fighters into their primes, with full knowledge of their complete records. I bring them to the current year in that condition and allow them sufficient time to train, using modern methods. with ample opportunities to study each other's films available. This tends to even the playing field. Then, in my mind, I schedule the fight for 12 rounds, the modern standard.

2. This is the classic Boxer vs. Slugger match up, similar to Jimmy Young vs. George Foreman, to give an example. Jack Johnson takes the place of Jimmy Young, and Deontay Wilder replaces George Foreman. The advantages in styles strongly favor Jack Johnson.

3. Jack Johnson's Professional Experience, is 700 rounds of fighting, a lot of which was against top quality competition, of various sizes. Deontay Wilder has 160 rounds in Professional Fights, against mostly larger competition. Regardless of sizes, Jack Johnson has an enormous Experience Advantage over Deontay Wilder.

4. Deontay Wilder probably hits much harder than anyone Jack Johnson ever faced. This keeps Jack Johnson cautious, which is why I only give Jack Johnson a decision win over Deontay Wilder. I doubt if Jack Johnson would risk trying to knock him out, due to the possibility of getting caught with a counter right hand.

I could go on, but I think you can get the gist of my reasoning here. It's all IMHO, of course. You've obviously reached a different conclusion and are certainly entitled to your opinion on this great Fantasy Match up! Differences of opinion are part of what makes this sport so great!

Late edit: Error in grammar corrected (are for is).

 

I'll admit I made a mistake, I thought Johnson weighed in at more for the Burns fight, and I'll own it. Still more than twice the difference in weight, and 5 times the difference in height. Still a very very poor comparison and an obvious reach. Funny thing is it appears you knew it was considering your response. Dont make arguments in bad faith my dude. Most of Dempseys top opponents were considerably heavier than him. Most of Johnsons were considerably lighter. You dont have to like it, but that's called facts. Probably the same reason you quickly stopped defending almost all the journeymen you claimed were big and skilled earlier in the thread when confronted on their records.

I never criticized Johnson for being bigger than Dempsey, don't strawman me. As for overall resumes, Dempsey's cleaning out of the HW division pre-title with such first round KOs as prime contender Fulton I would consider more impressive than a record predominated (not exclusively of course) with notably smaller or journeymen fighters. Lets stay on topic, clearly your plan of shifting the topic to Dempsey didn't work well.

Martin was a journeyman with a poor record, beating and losing a green McVea doesn't amount to much, wins against Armstrong with a poor record, a small Childs and other guys beaten by lesser fighters in more impressive fashion just isn't relevant. Truth is, Martin had a poor record not even counting his past prime comeback.

Didn't answer my question regarding Jeffries, not surprised.

 

Wilder destroys Johnson, he KOs him

 

For sure.
I know that because of such views White Bomber is not a favorite on the forum, but I agree with him.
I'm not downplaying Jack Johnson.
I will just compare boxing and 100m sprint athletics.
Jesse Owens Vs Usein Bolt.
10.3s Vs 9.59s
Jesse Owens once did an incredible thing, but Usein Bolt runs faster.

 

@White Bomber often agrees with me, but just as often frustrates me by not explaining his reasoning. I think the forum would be more receptive to his views if he explained them regularly.

 

I'm not so certain of that. Put the 2 of them on the same track, with the same shoes, same starting blocks, and give Jesse time to get used to the track, conditions, and shoes, and I believe you're going to have one heck of a close race on your hands, and you may need the photo to figure out who won. IMHO, of course.

 

Wilder knocks those pretty gold teeth of Johnson's right out of his mouth.

 

This. The synthetic tracks that modern track athletes run on is a lot easier on the legs and helps performance as do the much lighter shoes. Also, they don’t even time races the same. Back when Owens was a track athlete they used stopwatches while today they use timing consoles.

 

Never answered my question Bomb. After you called Leonard a coward, when can we watch you next ?

 

Shoes,electronic timing

 

At best Jesse Owens would run like Carl Lewis, not Usein Bolt.
Because Nesta Carter couldn't run like Usein Bolt either.

 

1. It's Usain Bolt.

2. Less than 7/10 or 8/10 of a second (some sources say it was 10.2s) faster isn't anything to write home about.

 

You think a shot Jefferies could be in the top 10?

 

We don't know how shot Jeffries was.