Deontay Wilder vs Jack Johnson

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Dance84, Apr 16, 2021.


Who wins

  1. Johnson Decision

    9.8%
  2. Johnson Knockout

    29.3%
  3. Wilder Decision

    2.4%
  4. Wilder Knockout

    53.7%
  5. Draw

    4.9%
  1. BoxingFanOfIranianDescent

    BoxingFanOfIranianDescent Tony Galento was an African American boxer. banned Full Member

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    I'll admit I made a mistake, I thought Johnson weighed in at more for the Burns fight, and I'll own it. Still more than twice the difference in weight, and 5 times the difference in height. Still a very very poor comparison and an obvious reach. Funny thing is it appears you knew it was considering your response. Dont make arguments in bad faith my dude. Most of Dempseys top opponents were considerably heavier than him. Most of Johnsons were considerably lighter. You dont have to like it, but that's called facts. Probably the same reason you quickly stopped defending almost all the journeymen you claimed were big and skilled earlier in the thread when confronted on their records.

    I never criticized Johnson for being bigger than Dempsey, don't strawman me. As for overall resumes, Dempsey's cleaning out of the HW division pre-title with such first round KOs as prime contender Fulton I would consider more impressive than a record predominated (not exclusively of course) with notably smaller or journeymen fighters. Lets stay on topic, clearly your plan of shifting the topic to Dempsey didn't work well.

    Martin was a journeyman with a poor record, beating and losing a green McVea doesn't amount to much, wins against Armstrong with a poor record, a small Childs and other guys beaten by lesser fighters in more impressive fashion just isn't relevant. Truth is, Martin had a poor record not even counting his past prime comeback.

    Didn't answer my question regarding Jeffries, not surprised.
     
  2. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :risas3:
     
  3. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilder destroys Johnson, he KOs him
     
  4. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic War for Souls Full Member

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    For sure.
    I know that because of such views White Bomber is not a favorite on the forum, but I agree with him.
    I'm not downplaying Jack Johnson.
    I will just compare boxing and 100m sprint athletics.
    Jesse Owens Vs Usein Bolt.
    10.3s Vs 9.59s
    Jesse Owens once did an incredible thing, but Usein Bolt runs faster.
     
  5. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm not so certain of that. Put the 2 of them on the same track, with the same shoes, same starting blocks, and give Jesse time to get used to the track, conditions, and shoes, and I believe you're going to have one heck of a close race on your hands, and you may need the photo to figure out who won. IMHO, of course.
     
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  6. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilder knocks those pretty gold teeth of Johnson's right out of his mouth.
     
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  7. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. The synthetic tracks that modern track athletes run on is a lot easier on the legs and helps performance as do the much lighter shoes. Also, they don’t even time races the same. Back when Owens was a track athlete they used stopwatches while today they use timing consoles.
     
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  8. LoadedGlove

    LoadedGlove Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Never answered my question Bomb. After you called Leonard a coward, when can we watch you next ?
     
  9. BUDW

    BUDW Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Shoes,electronic timing
     
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  10. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic War for Souls Full Member

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    At best Jesse Owens would run like Carl Lewis, not Usein Bolt.
    Because Nesta Carter couldn't run like Usein Bolt either.
     
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  11. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    1. It's Usain Bolt.

    2. Less than 7/10 or 8/10 of a second (some sources say it was 10.2s) faster isn't anything to write home about.
     
  12. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    You think a shot Jefferies could be in the top 10?
     
  13. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    We don't know how shot Jeffries was.
     
  14. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    So what you saw of Jeff. In film, you see that as a man ready for contender status? Really?
     
  15. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Low top 10 isn't that good to be honest. All he needs is smart manager and a few padded wins.